Proving Grounds 2011 feedback?

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by cmspaz

If they started that abomination near my car, it would fuck with my MAF so bad my car would die.

Tell them that if the loudest POS there can't run faster than my daily fucking driver they need to leave it at home, it's embarrassing and nobody fucking likes them.

Didn't a clown car beat MAP's fdsm? lol

[Tachyon]

A centralized information nexus would be key. This would facilitate solutions to several issues:

1. With the wind, it is very very hard to hear the announcer call your class to staging lanes -even harder if you are over watching an event such as drift.

2. An updated schedule should be maintained via a simple web page and also displayed at the aforementioned information booth. I saw a whole mess of cars leaving for breakfast not 5 minutes before the announcement that the drag time table had been moved up. This could cause issues.

3. Sinage. A few signs to point towards tech, autoX and info booth would be of great benefit. Plus they can be reused for years to come.

4. Suggested addition: mobile dyno. Just a thought...

5. Obviously faster tech. Sitting in like for a few hours was confusing at best.

6. The guys that ran autoX were amazing. I've never seen an event go off so efficiently. Please invite them back next year.

7. I really enjoyed racing heads up VS bracket. However, there might be a need for a bracket field as well.

8. I actually don't mind the drag announcer... I enjoy the old school folksy of it all. I think that with the plethora of top fuel cars that see that track, he's just keeping it real.

Anyway, that's all I got.

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Didn't a clown car beat MAP's fdsm? lol

The white one, which weirdly had a muffler. The shit brown one only ran a mid-12.

Also to note, that white one ran no better than 10s from what I saw all day on Saturday, then bust an 8.9 out of nowhere on Sunday. Who sandbags at an event like this? lol

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by scheides

AutoX track was fucking EPIC, have the track be somewhat like that again next year and the organizers were fucking awesome. Tech took 30 seconds, driver's meeting took 3 minutes, we were racing before I knew what was happening. That's how it should be

Originally Posted by Tachyon

6. The guys that ran autoX were amazing. I've never seen an event go off so efficiently. Please invite them back next year.

Thanks a lot guys! really means a lot and I'm glad the hard work of the CWSCC crew paid off. I hope MAP lets us to it again next year.

[jrohner]

Either no announcer or a half-decent one. He's annoying at every event, not just the MAP one. On the plus side, this time I managed to tune him out and didn't even notice him most of the time.

Figure out how to get some really fast cars there.

Some signs to know where to go and what is where.

More loud awesome rotarys and less loud irritating Honduhs.

For whatever reason, it seemed like there was a lot of down time even with tons of cars waiting to get on the track.

[maperformance]

Originally Posted by scheides

For whatever reason wherever I camped again this year it was nearly impossible to hear the announcer. This is somewhat a good thing but only b/c of the mitsubitchy shit, it would have been really really nice to actually be able to hear what class was being called instead of seeing them go rolling up there then go run for the car.

I couldn't give a shit about the power cruise or other upcoming events but I felt like those were kinda getting shoved down my throat all weekend.

Tech inspection, like others said speed it up somehow--I went to get inspected for drag while I was in between autoX heats--I ended up being late getting back for my second heat b/c of the wait, and we had a 30 minute break.

I know its the nature of the event being small but the diesel trucks really were a damper on saturday, but that almost made sunday that much more awesome!

+1 on centralizing info and registration

Biggest and most important? Unified classes between some or ALL events.

AutoX track was fucking EPIC, have the track be somewhat like that again next year and the organizers were fucking awesome. Tech took 30 seconds, driver's meeting took 3 minutes, we were racing before I knew what was happening. That's how it should be

I know there were issues with some individuals, but security was acting like mean big brothers/disgruntled cops/a-holes, not like shepherds of an awesome race track like last year.

With all that, just do it again next year and hope for the best! This year was better than last year, I know it is crazy organizing an event this big--overall I had a blast!

Oh, and don't ask me to post comments on facebook--I don't have an account and I don't want one

I wanted to take a second and mention to you, and others some things that are we can't help, and maybe if you understood why they took place, you could appreciate them more.

As well as explain, not make excuses, but let you know we've got some of these covered already.

Upcoming events like the Powercruise, our sponsors, and everyone that is at BIR during an event like this is a necessity to the event, and well as to BIR.

Powercruise gave us prizes to giveaway, you may not care about that personally, but others do. BIR sees every event they have up there as an opportunity to promote another. Without this marketing, the track would lose money, and then where would we race? Learn to appreciate these guys, without them, there is no track, or event to go to.

Tech is something that shouldn't have been an issue. BIR had scheduling issues with tech personnel. I know, it sucked, but next year we'll be good.

Security was stressed, we had a few too many issues sat night. We have a plan for that already in the works!

This year our attendance was enough that we will look to have the track just to ourselves!

Hope that answers a few things for you guys. We really do appreciate all the feedback, keep it coming!

[jrohner]

Originally Posted by maperformance

Hope that answers a few things for you guys. We really do appreciate all the feedback, keep it coming!

As long as the prices can stay as good as they were. It's great to be able to go have a really fun weekend without spending a fortune. Thanks MAP!

[DSMINMN]

Less loud, obnoxious rotaries and less Honduhs. I mean really!! Do they think they own this event or what? My God! lol

That's really all I have..

[Zivman]

Originally Posted by cmspaz

The white one, which weirdly had a muffler. The shit brown one only ran a mid-12.

Also to note, that white one ran no better than 10s from what I saw all day on Saturday, then bust an 8.9 out of nowhere on Sunday. Who sandbags at an event like this? lol

I am good friends with those guys. all their cars are legit. the brown one is a N/A rotory and runs mid 12's.... I think that is pretty solid

the white car ran two 9.0 runs and a 9.10 on friday and ran a 8.90 and 9.0 on saturday. Please explain how that is sandbagging? His times have been getting better and better. last year I think his best time was a 9.40 on the setup

... and the white one has no muffler... basically straight 5" dump off the turbo

hoping next yr I have time to join them

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by Zivman

I am good friends with those guys. all their cars are legit. the brown one is a N/A rotory and runs mid 12's.... I think that is pretty solid

the white car ran two 9.0 runs and a 9.10 on friday and ran a 8.90 and 9.0 on saturday. Please explain how that is sandbagging? His times have been getting better and better. last year I think his best time was a 9.40 on the setup

... and the white one has no muffler... basically straight 5" dump off the turbo

hoping next yr I have time to join them

A solid time, yes. Justification for the noise it makes, no. Seriously, you cannot possibly justify that kind of noise when cars next to it won't stay running. It's not loud, it's obscene and offensive, and the two times my car died next to it I'd have gone as far as labeling it downright antagonistic. And despite putting down a "respectable" time, the fact remains that it's a purpose-built race car that's slower than my daily driver.

And the turbo is effectively a muffler, which explains why that one makes at least tolerable noise levels. I guess I misread one of the times (probably the 9.10) as a 10.x, my bad. I was doing my best to ignore their cars.

In the end, I'd have zero issues with that group if they'd leave the brown car and the noisy pit bikes/atvs/etc at home and make normal amounts of noise like everyone else.

And that's coming from the loudest person on MitsuStyle.

[Zivman]

Originally Posted by cmspaz

A solid time, yes. Justification for the noise it makes, no. Seriously, you cannot possibly justify that kind of noise when cars next to it won't stay running. It's not loud, it's obscene and offensive, and the two times my car died next to it I'd have gone as far as labeling it downright antagonistic. And despite putting down a "respectable" time, the fact remains that it's a purpose-built race car that's slower than my daily driver.
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you are at a track.... cars are going to be loud.

the brown car is loud, but not 'that' loud. If your car can't stay running because of the noise, I would say that is more your problem than theirs. Sure it isn't the fastest thing out there, but for the money into it, they have fun with it and it runs decent times. And good for you, you have a fast DD. MY evo is probably faster than it was well <- just don't see how that matters much.

They go to the track for a good time. I say lighten up a bit and have a good time too

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Goto a domestic day with fast cars, there are much louder cars...

[Tachyon]

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance

Goto a domestic day with fast cars, there are much louder cars...

[Murlo26]

Originally Posted by cmspaz

And that's coming from the loudest person on MitsuStyle.

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

[ylimert01]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

sad missed this year.

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

Whos the loudest here? And loud like car or loud like loudmouth

Loudmouth

[Murlo26]

K, just needed some clarification

[maperformance]

I personally didn't hear a car that was loud all weekend. But then I go to track days all the time. This weekend was tame, and quiet compared to nationals, or even the show and shine.

Cars are supposed to be loud imo lol.

[Zivman]

Originally Posted by maperformance

I personally didn't hear a car that was loud all weekend. But then I go to track days all the time. This weekend was tame, and quiet compared to nationals, or even the show and shine.

Cars are supposed to be loud imo lol.

[cudvig]

Whoever thinks they are louder than me is just plain and simply put, wrong.

duh.

-Colin