Ted Cruz

[1ViciousGSX]

Go!

[Kracka]

I voted for him in his current position, but he's too extreme to get elected on the national level. I did not vote for him in the primaries though, I went for David Dewhurt (Lt. Gov. of TX at the time) instead. The Hispanic background could work to his advantage if he plays it properly.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by Kracka

he's too extreme to get elected on the national level. I did not vote for him in the primaries though

Exactly this! There are things that I like about him, and things that I think he's a complete idiot for. But he's very polarizing. It might work well in a place with the right demographic, but not in a national election.

[1ViciousGSX]

I think he's electable. The liberal left has done a great job of moving the goal post so far left that anybody with brains and common sense will seem extreme now.

[jeremy1375]

He's too far right. He's announcing his run at Liberty University, which was founded by Jerry Falwell. Falwell, blames 9/11 on homosexuals. That's the type of crazy a candidate should stay away from.

If he was president, I could imagine him commissioning NASA to make a trip to heaven.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

If he was president, I could imagine him commissioning NASA to make a trip to heaven.

Regardless of religious beliefs, that's downright funny

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by jeremy1375

He's too far right. He's announcing his run at Liberty University, which was founded by Jerry Falwell. Falwell, blames 9/11 on homosexuals. That's the type of crazy a candidate should stay away from.

If he was president, I could imagine him commissioning NASA to make a trip to heaven.

I'm ready for "too far right". We need a hard kick to the right as a country to get back to center.

I seriously doubt Cruz blames homossexuals for 911, no matter what Falwell thinks. It's going to be very entertaining to watch the left talk about this kind of stuff to try and bring him down while giving Obama a pass all these years for his known associations. Pot call kettle black.

Although that was funny, at least he wouldn't use NASA for Muslim public relations. That worked so well for Obamanation.

[jeremy1375]

If you're looking for someone on the Tea Party end of the spectrum, I think Marco Rubio would have a much better chance than Cruz ever would. I can't stand how Cruz handles himself. I'd bet every registered liberal voter would rush to the polls to vote against him. Rubio can at least handle himself well and can put on respectable disposition IMO.

[1ViciousGSX]

There are several as a team could pull off a win. Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Walker, any of those four in any team could win. I personaly like Scott Walker a lot.

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

I personaly like Scott Walker a lot.

Me too. Watching from a distance, I really like what he's done for Wisconsin.

[tpunx99GSX]

I for one would love Ted Cruz running. The Dems could put up anyone and they would instantly win.

[AwdGSX13]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I for one would love Ted Cruz running. The Dems could put up anyone and they would instantly win.

Buying votes with free handouts paid for by the middle class.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by AwdGSX13

Buying votes with free handouts paid for by the middle class.

Sadly enough, its worked so far,.....

[AwdGSX13]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Sadly enough, its worked so far,.....

Right.... United Detroit of America??? Lol

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by AwdGSX13

Right.... United Detroit of America??? Lol

Look how it's worked out for Detroit,....

[1ViciousGSX]

Don't be so sure about that. The golden bitch ain't looking too good right now and Warren is too scary even for the Dems, let alone the independents who are looking for somebody with principles who isn't afraid to call out big O on his failed policies of which there are many.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Don't be so sure about that. The golden bitch ain't looking too good right now and Warren is too scary even for the Dems, let alone the independents who are looking for somebody with principles who isn't afraid to call out big O on his failed policies of which there are many.

Honestly, i dont think Hillery will run. she would likely win if she did. but i dont think she will.
Which failed policies are you speaking to? I find it funny how you would use a general statement like that without any specifics. There have been a lot of things that this administration has done very well. The ACA is the first this country has seen, and is working. But like every big change you will get lots of people whining.
I would rather have a person in office that actually cares about the People of this country and working policies that help the People and not just corporations. Conservatives have yet to connect with the people of this country which is their main downfall every primary election. (midterms done count because voter turnout is a fraction of what they are during the primaries. I think it would be actually great if they did away with midterms and just had all of the voting on primary election days just to give the best turnouts)

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Honestly, i dont think Hillery will run. she would likely win if she did. but i dont think she will.
Which failed policies are you speaking to? I find it funny how you would use a general statement like that without any specifics. There have been a lot of things that this administration has done very well. The ACA is the first this country has seen, and is working. But like every big change you will get lots of people whining.
I would rather have a person in office that actually cares about the People of this country and working policies that help the People and not just corporations. Conservatives have yet to connect with the people of this country which is their main downfall every primary election. (midterms done count because voter turnout is a fraction of what they are during the primaries. I think it would be actually great if they did away with midterms and just had all of the voting on primary election days just to give the best turnouts)

Yeah, the ACA is working so well that Obama had to break the law several times to personally rewrite parts of it to suit his political agenda at the time. Not his job to do that. Add to that, rates are going up as a whole, not down. Every promise he personally made to the American people to push through that monster has come to be a lie. They also lied about enrollment numbers to save it from going away. Remember that 7 million mark they say they reached by March 31, 2014? They lied about that too. He said it would create jobs, it didn't, well unless you count companies that dropped full time employees to part time and then hired other part time employees to make it up. Even still now, it's the DMV of healthcare. And rates are gonna go up from here. Can you tell me why Obama Inc is exempt from it if its so great? At it's time of passing the overwhelming majority of Amreicans didn't want it, many still don't. So is it his job to do what he wants, or what we as Americans want?

Let's talk about forgeign policy, its a joke. I swear he's playing for the other team. Turning his back on Israel who has been our long time ally in the region and making friends with Iran who has said many times, including recently that it wants to destroy Israel. He can't call terrorism what it really is, FUCKING TERRORISM! He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

Lets talk domestic policy. How are race relations in this country? The worst I can ever remember them. Obama and his DoJ have blood on their hands from purposely stoking the flames of hate and racism on isuues that had nothing to do with racism. They even purposely twisted the facts to try and create racism where it wasn't. If I was officer Wilson, I'd have me the biggest, baddest lawyer I could find sueing both their asses for everything they're worth. And he could win his case aganst them both on a government level as well as personally, because they both showed full blowm racism in their jobs and personally against him.

How about his border policy? Oh wait, he doesn't have one unless "open door" is it. And that is a dereliction of duty as commander in chief of this country as he is bound by the US Constitution to secure and protect our borders. And if you think it's just illegals coming across to pick lettuce and berries you are just plain stupid. The FBI has already located 20-30 terror training camps in the USA. Why hasn't he shut them down?

How about domestic policy? How many people are on welfare, food stamps, government housing, government cheese since he took office? More than ever which goes against "the economy has greatly improved" shit he keeps saying.
Explain to me how making people more dependent on big government helps them? It only helps big government.

And you can call me right wing crazy if you like, but I have yet to see Obama or Holder discuss openly in any debate any of these facts. They just give their speeches, but refuse to back it up in a real debate with those who call them out on it. Real convenient how that's been working.

I guess he bought that $8 million dollar mansion in Hawaii with money he earned by "helping the people"? Or was it from helping corporations like GE?

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

He said it would create jobs, it didn't, well unless you count companies that dropped full time employees to part time and then hired other part time employees to make it up.

Complete Fucking bullshit!

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Can you tell me why Obama Inc is exempt from it if its so great? At it's time of passing the overwhelming majority of Amreicans didn't want it, many still don't. So is it his job to do what he wants, or what we as Americans want?

Funny because i myself is exempt from the ACA. Why? Because i have healthcare through my employer, Why would the administration have to get on a ACA plan when they have healthcare though the plan put forth by their employer. Word trickery there, good job.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Let's talk about forgeign policy, its a joke. I swear he's playing for the other team. Turning his back on Israel who has been our long time ally in the region and making friends with Iran who has said many times, including recently that it wants to destroy Israel. He can't call terrorism what it really is, FUCKING TERRORISM! He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

He turned his back on Israel because they were trying to fuck up a peace deal with iran to make sure they dont develope Weapons grade plutonium. Going from energy producing plutonium to weapons grade is quite different.
http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html , On top of that the stupid republicans with Yahoo were interfering with the talks before a resolution could even be made. it would be like me walking into a company directors meeting and telling them they cant make a decision about the company without my approval.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Lets talk domestic policy. How are race relations in this country? The worst I can ever remember them. Obama and his DoJ have blood on their hands from purposely stoking the flames of hate and racism on isuues that had nothing to do with racism. They even purposely twisted the facts to try and create racism where it wasn't. If I was officer Wilson, I'd have me the biggest, baddest lawyer I could find sueing both their asses for everything they're worth. And he could win his case aganst them both on a government level as well as personally, because they both showed full blowm racism in their jobs and personally against him.

Stoking the flames? Really? The republican party has been stoking those flames well before the administration. Since when did Obama come out and say anything race related in this? By offering condolences and saying the DOJ will investigate, which they did and found nothing. Do you want the president to now come out and suck the dick of the cop? The president does not control the thoughts and minds of the people on both sides. Personally i dont agree with either side of this. I think the Black Lives Matter protests are a joke, all lives matter. but on the other hand, HUMAN brutality, on the part of the police, as well as humans in general sucks. And people need to just stop being so fucking violent towards other humans.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

How about his border policy? Oh wait, he doesn't have one unless "open door" is it. And that is a dereliction of duty as commander in chief of this country as he is bound by the US Constitution to secure and protect our borders. And if you think it's just illegals coming across to pick lettuce and berries you are just plain stupid. The FBI has already located 20-30 terror training camps in the USA. Why hasn't he shut them down?

So on one hand, you have the repubs saying that they dont want the government in their houses, and on the other hand, the government isnt doing enough monitoring of the civilians? Give me a break you cant have it both ways.
On the Open border policy, do you feel a bigger fence would be better, Remember all of us are technically aliens, whether they came over on the mayflower, or much later. Import of illegal immigrants has gone down SIGNIFICANTLY since this administration came into the second term. Farmers and companies hiring migrant workers are fueling the import of illegal immigrants. So should the administration start prosecuting farmers for hiring immigrants and not doing background checks? im sure that will go over very well with the cons.

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

How about domestic policy? How many people are on welfare, food stamps, government housing, government cheese since he took office? More than ever which goes against "the economy has greatly improved" shit he keeps saying.
Explain to me how making people more dependent on big government helps them? It only helps big government.

This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that welfare has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program

Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

And you can call me right wing crazy if you like, but I have yet to see Obama or Holder discuss openly in any debate any of these facts. They just give their speeches, but refuse to back it up in a real debate with those who call them out on it. Real convenient how that's been working.

I guess he bought that $8 million dollar mansion in Hawaii with money he earned by "helping the people"? Or was it from helping corporations like GE?

LOL, As opposed to republican senators, and congressmen sucking on the teet of the oil companys, that are DESTROYING whole ecosystems. or giants like Monsanto bullying farmers, and destroying insect populations vital to pollinating crops.
You are a right wing crazy, and im sure you will call me a left wing nut. But what the big difference between us, is that i believe money and race does not drive everything in this world. I would not trade our air quality for industry, i would not trade animal populations for money.

[1ViciousGSX]

I'm calling bullshit on your bullshit!

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Complete Fucking bullshit!

Funny because i myself is exempt from the ACA. Why? Because i have healthcare through my employer, Why would the administration have to get on a ACA plan when they have healthcare though the plan put forth by their employer. Word trickery there, good job.

You are not "exempted from the ACA". You are following the law of the ACA that says you must have health insurance based on government requirements of coverage. So, although you have not purchased through a government exchange YET, you are still bound by the ACA which will dictate what coverage you get and to what extent you will get it. The Senate, Congress and Obama Inc are exempt from it, it's requirements and most importantly it's limitations.

Just wait, you haven't seen anything yet, wait until it fails. Until then, they'll jack up the rates so high you can't afford it anymore.

Oh wait, but what about the subsidies kicking in to reduce cost? Most who thought/were told they would get them are finding out its not so true.

Ask yourself, does it make sense to be taxed so heavily by the government just so the government can give it back to you in the way of "financial favors" (subsidies)? Of course those subsidies are after they skim some money off the top for themselves.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

He turned his back on Israel because they were trying to fuck up a peace deal with iran to make sure they dont develope Weapons grade plutonium. Going from energy producing plutonium to weapons grade is quite different.
http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html , On top of that the stupid republicans with Yahoo were interfering with the talks before a resolution could even be made. it would be like me walking into a company directors meeting and telling them they cant make a decision about the company without my approval.

Have you been paying attention lately?
He's cutting a closed room nuclear deal with Iran which he claims will bring about better US/Iranian relations, but just a few days ago the Ayatollah Khomeini is saying "Death to America" in a recent speech?

You really believe Iran only wants nuclear energy? I guess all those ICBMs (inter-continental ballistic missiles) they're building are being built to deliver their oil to market? With Iran being the 2nd largest exporter of oil as of 2012, I'm sure they are having an energy crisis right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Stoking the flames? Really? The republican party has been stoking those flames well before the administration. Since when did Obama come out and say anything race related in this? By offering condolences and saying the DOJ will investigate, which they did and found nothing. Do you want the president to now come out and suck the dick of the cop? The president does not control the thoughts and minds of the people on both sides. Personally i dont agree with either side of this. I think the Black Lives Matter protests are a joke, all lives matter. but on the other hand, HUMAN brutality, on the part of the police, as well as humans in general sucks. And people need to just stop being so fucking violent towards other humans.

Pay attention, don't want to lose you in all this.

1) Black Panther voter intimidation at the polls.
Obama said and did nothing, Holder let it drag out long enough for most people to forget about it before deciding to drop the case for "lack of evidence". Guess the fucking video we all saw wasn't proof enough? Imagine if a white supremacy group had done it. By Obama's own actions in every other supposed "racist issue" that they pounce on, the Black Panthers were let off the hook because they were black.

2) "Cambridge Police acted stupidly" -Obama
From the incident where Harvard professor Skip Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct after police were called to the house for a possible burglary. Obama admitted he knew none of the details but proceeded to state that the police acted stupidly in arresting the professor. Why, because he was a black man. Or was it because he got billigerent and abussive to the cops with the "It's because I'm black!" bullshit instead of just calmly explaining himself. Remember the "Beer Summit" to smooth it over?

3) "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon" -Obama
Obama Inc did everything they could to twist the story and facts into a "white" hispanic male shooting an unarmed black youth. They even sent paid protestors to the area to add fuel to the fire.

4) "Hands Up Don't Shoot"
Obama Inc even to this day is claiming racial discrimination in Ferguson when it was proven Officer Wilson's actions were justfied. Claiming that more blacks are arrested or given tickets in Ferguson is just playing with the numbers to suit an agenda. Any time you have predominently black neighborhood, the numbers are gonna follow that.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

So on one hand, you have the repubs saying that they dont want the government in their houses, and on the other hand, the government isnt doing enough monitoring of the civilians? Give me a break you cant have it both ways.

Nice strawman attempt, but you fail.

What the hell does Obama's illegal policy of an open boarder have to do with spying on the American people??? Do you not understand the importance of our being a soveriegn nation with a secure border?

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

On the Open border policy, do you feel a bigger fence would be better, Remember all of us are technically aliens, whether they came over on the mayflower, or much later. Import of illegal immigrants has gone down SIGNIFICANTLY since this administration came into the second term. Farmers and companies hiring migrant workers are fueling the import of illegal immigrants. So should the administration start prosecuting farmers for hiring immigrants and not doing background checks? im sure that will go over very well with the cons.

A bigger fence is not the issue, the deterrent is. Who's gonna obey our boundries when Obama Inc puts out the word, "You can't come in, *wink wink*. But, if you get here, you'll be welcomed with open arms and we'll give you all this free shit!"
Illegal immagration is down? Were you not paying attention to the huge influx of illegals that came into the country last year in waves?
Everybody is required to use E-Verify. It's already in place.
You're a big "raise the minimum wage" proponent right? So on one hand you want better pay for Americans, but then you want illegals to come in and take those jobs that would be minimum wage.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that welfare has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program

This is actually untrue, and there are well stated facts that HAVING A JOB has a better rate of return on the economy than any other social program!

Why? Becuase instead of being a burden on the system, you become a contributor to the system while being self-sufficiant.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

LOL, As opposed to republican senators, and congressmen sucking on the teet of the oil companys, that are DESTROYING whole ecosystems. or giants like Monsanto bullying farmers, and destroying insect populations vital to pollinating crops.

So you're saying Democratic senators and congressmen don't? Guess I'm gonna need proof of that.
So, in your "down with the corporations" mantra, have you stopped driving your car? Stopped chatting on your cell phone? Stopped buying plastic products?
Stopped eating processed foods? Stopped eating GMO? Stopped buying food and grow your own now?
I'm gonna guess the awnswer is NO for all of them.

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

You are a right wing crazy, and im sure you will call me a left wing nut. But what the big difference between us, is that i believe money and race does not drive everything in this world. I would not trade our air quality for industry, i would not trade animal populations for money.

Well you silly left wing nut,
I don't think money and race drive everything in this world either. Nothing I've said should have led you to that assumption. I believe in free enterprise and fair taxation. I don't believe in hand outs, but do believe in hand ups. The welfare state was never meant to be a lifestyle, although the Dems are the one's that made that happen. I do believe darwinism should be allowed to play it self out more, you can't regulate a harm free world eutopia. I think we should stop talking about race, PERIOD. Stand on your own two feet and do your best, you will be rewarded for it.