Innovate LC-1 wideband kit

[HiImBrian]

Has anyone ever used this wideband kit? I see most people using the aem uego. Any reason why I shouldn't get this one? $175 is a good price.

[niterydr]

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/sho...light=wideband

[HiImBrian]

^So from what I get from that article is that the Innovative was rated higher than the UEGO but I should possibly include the NGK/NTK as well considering "they are a direct comparison."

So swanny, from that article I would assume you would say that $175 for a brand new unused innovative LC-1 is a good deal considering they are around $300 new. Would you concur?

Also, do you really need a gauge with the wideband or can I just monitor my a/f on a laptop? Obviously, I know a gauge wouldn't be a bad thing to have, but just trying to understand this topic a little more. Thanks

^Answered my own question. You can monitor your a/fs on a laptop. I would get a gauge as well, just wondering.

[TwoTalons]

The LC-1 comes with Logworks software which allows you to monitor and datalog AFR on a laptop.

I have two LC-1's, an XD-16 gauge and an LM-1. Great products.

[niterydr]

We've pretty much dropped the innovative line, they take out to many 02 sensors. I will re-evaluate that decision come spring, but I got tired of replacing o2 sensors early as well as having customer do the same.

[TwoTalons]

Innovate uses the cheaper and less hardy Bosch sensor. They won't take nearly as much exposure to lead before failing than the NTK sensor will.

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

Innovate uses the cheaper and less hardy Bosch sensor. They won't take nearly as much exposure to lead before failing than the NTK sensor will.

True, but the real problem is the heater control circuit.

Oh and its nice to see you on here again! How is the El Camino? Thanks again for the shoutout in Chev High Per and congrats on the cover!

[TwoTalons]

Originally Posted by niterydr

Oh and its nice to see you on here again! How is the El Camino? Thanks again for the shoutout in Chev High Per and congrats on the cover!

Thanks and you're welcome. I sold the El Camino this past May after 26 years of ownership.

[niterydr]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

Thanks and you're welcome. I sold the El Camino this past May after 26 years of ownership.

Wow that must have been a very hard sale, absolutely the best El Camino I have ever seen in person.

[JET]

Originally Posted by TwoTalons

Innovate uses the cheaper and less hardy Bosch sensor. They won't take nearly as much exposure to lead before failing than the NTK sensor will.

Yeah, look at the price of the NTK though. They aren't bulletproof either, I went through them about as fast as the Bosch ones.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

I like the LM-1 better than the LC-1. The LC-1s had a lot failures early on and it is hard to tell if it is working or what is going on with no screen. At least with the LM-1 you know you had a bad sensor, unlike a lot of units that appear to contine working but give out wrong A/F readings. I wish the NGK AFX unit had the programmability of the Innovate units.

[HiImBrian]

^Well I've got dsmlink so really all I wanna know are my a/fs. Dsmlink's a/f readings aren't very accurate from what I read.

[Dizmm]

Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX

^Well I've got dsmlink so really all I wanna know are my a/fs. Dsmlink's a/f readings aren't very accurate from what I read.

I bought the LC-1 and I did not like it when working with it in DSM-link. DSM-link does not directly support the LC-1. The LC-1 however does have programmable outputs so you have to program the LC-1 to emulate a different wideband. This becomes a PITA and i finally just sold it and went with the PLX. I love the PLX.