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Old 06-14-2007   #1
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wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

So I was drivin north on hemlock today and a pretty sweet newer 3000gt vr4 came up next to me at a light. We did the "hey nice car" exchance and talked briefly at the next few lights. He had some nice lookin mitsu 5 spokes and the ugly (imo) ricer version wing on the back. He gunned it a few times and the stupid thing just lurched back and took off. It made me and my laggy 50 trim just tear up a little. Aw it made me wish I woulda baught a 3s vr4 instead of the 2g gsx. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but that fool was runin 13psi on stock turbos!
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Old 06-14-2007   #2
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

they can make pretty decent power, even on the stock turbos. How much power is your 50-trim putting down? I'm sure it would have been a close race...
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

I'm making a sad 265awhp. I just hate having to come from behind EVERY time.
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Old 06-15-2007   #4
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

You woulda raped him. I despise those cars. :-)
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Old 06-15-2007   #5
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

3's on stock turbos at 8psi equal 1 16g. That's why, when they upgrade to 16g's, they make 60x whp!

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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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....Aw it made me wish I woulda baught a 3s vr4 instead of the 2g gsx....!
I don't think you'd be saying that when you're working on it
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I don't think you'd be saying that when you're working on it
Exactly. The only thing I don't like about em is they are hard to work on and parts are hella expensive. But the thing is you don't eed to do much work because they are so quick even with stock turbos.
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Old 06-15-2007   #8
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

Stock turbo 3s's usually put down about that, with more power under the curve than your 50. I've gotten used to working on them, so they're not bad for me. But they're still das boat's of a car
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Old 06-15-2007   #9
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

I like 3/S's, they are like grown up DSM's.

Are you sure it was a ricer wing and not a '99 wing?

http://www.autoworld.com/news/Mitsubishi/3000GT-VR4.jpg
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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I like 3/S's, they are like grown up DSM's.

Are you sure it was a ricer wing and not a '99 wing?

http://www.autoworld.com/news/Mitsubishi/3000GT-VR4.jpg
Yea it was the 99 wing, I just don't like em. They don't fit with the rest of the car lol
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

I usually wish the same thing, but the key to DSMs is that they are cheap. SO as long as I remember that i stay happy. - Aaron
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I usually wish the same thing, but the key to DSMs is that they are cheap. SO as long as I remember that i stay happy. - Aaron
Yea but with the 3kvr4 you dont need to put much money into em to get 12s like you do with dsms. So in the end I guess they kinda even out. My main thing is I just hate coming from behind in any race. Waiting for the turbo to hit boost just sucks donkey dick. Having two smaller ones just sounds so much nicer.
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Yea but with the 3kvr4 you dont need to put much money into em to get 12s like you do with dsms. So in the end I guess they kinda even out. My main thing is I just hate coming from behind in any race. Waiting for the turbo to hit boost just sucks donkey dick. Having two smaller ones just sounds so much nicer.
50's arent that laggy...
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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50's arent that laggy...
Then I've got a boost leak somewhere I'm hoping. We tried to do a boost leak test today, but the inlet on the 50 trim is 3inches and the rubber piece I bought when making my boost leak tester is 3.5 inches and I can't tighten it enough to stay on there past 5psi.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

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Then I've got a boost leak somewhere I'm hoping. We tried to do a boost leak test today, but the inlet on the 50 trim is 3inches and the rubber piece I bought when making my boost leak tester is 3.5 inches and I can't tighten it enough to stay on there past 5psi.
Well, make the flat part smaller, get a reducer coupler or something, because if you do the calculation (easy) you'd find that at 5 psi, it's like a 48 lb weight pushing that 3.5" flat surface out of the coupler.

Anyway, you probably don't need more than 5 psi to check for leaks anyway. Just listen and look.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

A BPU 3/S will put down around 250 to 270AWHP on the LSE dyno. So your numbers are in that range. But obviously the 3/S was spooling faster, so it got into the power range quicker.

The nice thing about a 3/S, is you can get to BPU pretty easy, and its very reliable horsepower. But it gets expensive after that. So if you want a sexy, reliable, Mitsu that can run 12.9s all day in the 1/4 mile, then a 3/S is a good way to go.

If you want an inexpensive Mitsu that has poentential for 11s and you are willing to do it cheaply but be ready to turn a wrench. Well, then a DSM is a better fit.

I'm an oddball because I rely on a DSM to be my reliable, daily driver, with very few mods. My 3/S is the one I take to the track and I'm ready to watch it break.

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I rely on a DSM to be my reliable, daily driver, with very few mods. My 3/S is the one I take to the track and I'm ready to watch it break.
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Were you dropped on your head as a child?
LMFAO.
Curt you definatly have some clean dsms and 3/s's.
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Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Maybe? But between my old 96 GSX and my current 97 GSX, I've put on over 130,000 miles on DSMs. Only problems I ever had was the stupid power antennas and the spark plug wire arched on me pretty bad. I call DSMs very reliable.
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Re: wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

If you are launching from a dig, then you shouldn't have to worry about turbo spool and if you are from a roll there shouldn't be much either, unless you are in the wrong gear. With the weight difference you should have beat him pretty easily.

3S's are nice cars and can be made pretty quick, but DSM's are cheap powa. Both have their good and bad points.
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