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Old 04-10-2009   #1
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Red face Will my fricken' luck ever change?

So, as you all know, my luck as of late could not get any worse, and I really can't think of how it could. I won't get into it, as in reality, no one cares much for it. But, I decided that I needed SOMETHING for ME. So, I scrounged together some cashola ( and some I didn't have) to get up on the rollers at the BEGINNING of the year, and not at the end.

I got up to DB, with some gas in car, and we threw it up..here's proof!




First off, my motor is noisy, always has been, always will be..dunno why. Proof is in the pudding..look closely at the blue..that's knock.."phantom" knock, with a few counts of real in there..



Shane worked his magic in a rather quick manner..



And the results are..ok. I can not fault anyone for the tune or etc, but myself and the car. I will first give a HUGE thanks to Shane for staying soo late with me to work this out, and sort some issues. Also, Thanks for John to stop by and lend a hand. And, the few peeps that showed up



Numbers are: 533 AWHP 390 TQ 35ish psi.

Now, just to make myself a bit happier, and to give everyone a BIT of my "bench number" prospective, I took Mara's numbers, and Andrew's (asshanson) and looked at their differences on DB to MAP's dyno..both right around 18%..within about 2-3 hp. So, with that in mind..my "projected" numbers would be: 628AWHP, 460 TQ

Again, that's BENCH numbers, as I didn't actually strap down there YET. I plan on it, just to see if I follow the same path as others have.

To say I'm happy, would not be quite right. It's fun, yes..but the powerband is what kills me. Through no fault of John or myself, all the stuff we fixed/changed over winter, the car STILL can't rev! It CUTS out hard at the SAME spot! 7950! I should be able to go to 8750ish. I'm not too happy. This is a laggier setup. I dunno if it's the need to shim the valve springs, port the head, get different cams, get a stroker motor, or live with it, and get a small turbo..I dunno. But, whatever. Something MUST change..this has been 2 years chasing whatever the f^&* the issue is!

Riding home in the car, with shane right there was...interesting. I have a few issues, that I'm sure he and I will continue to work out. A)1600's are not for faint of heart. part throttle is decent at best..just too hard to tune around with their resolution. B) when on highway, downshifting into say..3rd, the car spits and sputters a bit..burry the throttle..it still does..then cleans up..then...woooa. hold on. Which brings me to my next point..C) I need better tires! I guess AWD burnouts are my new thing..as that's what this car likes to do. Shane and I had about 4 attempts at each other on the way back south to go home..first time I did it, there was a cop in the divider area...oopS! other times..it just bucked..sputtered then took off, and spun..got a bit sideways.

So ya. That's my day. I can't say there is much more in the car, atleast right now. Few options we'd try is a 1g knock sensor, that's less sensative as a 2g is. Also, boost leak test, and clean out the fuel filter, as the fuel pressure and tune was not quite right.."running out of fuel" it seems like, but injectors are right around 70% DC, so clogged filter? Other then that, I'm out of ideas! We had an issue with my MAP sensor too, so right now I'm on a spare one Shane had sitting around (thanks Shane!) and I'll TRY to see if somehow AEM will warranty mine?

Anyway, that's all for now. Video is WAY too slow to upload, and frankly, not a whole lot to look at. I stopped at taco bell on the way home, as I didn't have much to eat..actually NOTHING AT ALL today, since last night! So, I drove there..guy at the window was a little "happy" when I pulled up, and started obsessing..kinda funny. But, now my belly is full of tacos, burritos, and quesadilla's. I guess I gotta be happy I'm now on that smelly corn schtuff, and I DROVE the car home..not towed it. So, I hope in the future, I can have better news to deliver to you all. For now, there ya have it!

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Old 04-10-2009   #2
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

WOOT swifty! Post dyno charts or ban!

Respectable numbers, sorry you can't figure out the rpm thing
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Old 04-10-2009   #3
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

-you cans ee my bright yellow zip up on the reflection of the car, proof i was there..lol

-sorry about all your issues you had but we were there to keep you somewhat happy

-your powerband does suck donkey balls

-at least your full of tacos and burritos and mexican food

-you could of came over for some beer to fill ya right up!

-you should of gotten a pic of whatever the hell you said was glowing red

-i want a ride sometime
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Old 04-10-2009   #4
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

That isn't that bad of luck! I was waiting to hear that you blew it up on the dyno! My car started spitting molten aluminum and started the firewall on fire, THAT is bad luck
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Old 04-10-2009   #5
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+1, enjoy the car, keep working on the issues and just have fun with it
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Old 04-10-2009   #6
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

lol...i thought your engine blew or something. that got me scared just reading it man. its good that nothing bad happened but it totally sucks that the car cant be pushed to its max potential. I know how that feels man. I least you drove it home which, i hope, put a smile on your face. Those awd burnouts would forever put a smile on my face if my car could do that.
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good powarz!
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

Not too bad. Not what I was expecting out of your ride. But Id be stoked to have over 500hp in my car. Maybe since it was a ground issue last time kinda for those RPMS you need to upsize your ground cables. Or something. Thats weird you cant push it.
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Old 04-10-2009   #9
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That COP is still on there.........?
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

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That COP is still on there.........?
I've only beaten him up on it for 2 years now.

Glad to see you got it tuned at a higher boost level. Get it over at MAP for a comparision if you want and get to the track man!
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

500+ at DB is no fucking joke.

Fuck i probably won't even break 400 there. Keep at it man, listen to some people that know as much as you are on the net, you know that you have to at least try getting rid of the COP to see if its the problem.

1600s are fine, the only complaint I have with them is when you are cruising they will have an occasional "miss" to them, but from what I have found that is common.

Bring it out to hooters tonight and enjoy everyone wanting a ride in your new burnout machine, i know i want one.

Sorry I didnt make it out, a friend needed help with his car and it took forever.
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I've only beaten him up on it for 2 years now.

Glad to see you got it tuned at a higher boost level. Get it over at MAP for a comparision if you want and get to the track man!

but it's so clean.......

(see curt brown issue about the same issue and Advanced Auto wires and a 2g whatever thing - oh cleaned up smoothe non-misfiring car, but who would want that???)
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was plug gap down? I am sure it was, but to check.
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Nice power! Try some different (slightly smaller?) injectors and see if you can clean up your issues.
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

Nice power. What boost was the 533 made at? I know the 67's really like boost. Add another vote to ditching the C.O.P. IMO if you really want a better powerband I'd get a 35r HTA. You'd have all the power of the 67 with none of the lag.
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^35r hta looks damn hot.
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Good power!! Watching it dyno last night made me want a dsm again... lol!
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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

I am looking into a perhaps "smaller" turbo setup..most likely the 6262, but I dunno.

I've tried John's AEM EMS, I've tried different maps, I've tried brand new coils, eliminating the MSD, AND going back to a stock ignition, ALL TO NO AVAIL! I DO NOT KNOW what the F is wrong with this damn car, but the money i've spent in chasing this F-in issue is beyond redonculous.

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Re: Will my fricken' luck ever change?

Boost is listed..36ish psi..Another thing..that didn't quite hold consistantly.
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Have you ever thought about getting one of the m&w boxes, I have heard lots of good things. Thats some good power. It looks a little laggy, but its probably still really fun.
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