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Old 02-15-2004   #1
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ok so I've been readin a lot about this Sam Jackobson's supra(t51r) and Sloss's s351r saleen and what I'm wondering who out of "us" dsmers is gonna be running with these boys this year? We need a dsmer to take them down? whos going for it whats your plans and if you dont wanna share I respect that too just wondering whats going on for this season thats on its approach?
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I can sure as all hell try :P
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I wanna be able to hang with sloss' convertible one. Tha's all.
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I just don't want to run a 14 again this year. And more importantly I don't want to burn out my clutch on my second run.... :uh:
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I want to get in the high 11's on race gas. Hopefully I can. What are those guys running anyhow? I haven't read much about them. Is the s351 the one on xrated that John (galant) raced?
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they will go down this year easily. not by me though. From what i remember, sams got beat. and the saleen, if im thinkng of the right one got beat by john.
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they will go down this year easily.
Well, the old Saleen that that John raced ran some mid 11s at 128-129mph at the dragstrip, anyone on here trap that high? Now Sloss has a different S351R that is supposed to lighter and faster. Sam's traction limited Supra would have taken the S351R from a roll if the Sloss didn't hit the brakes whenever he is about to get passed. Sam's should also be much faster this year with some tuning and high boost.

We have AWD but getting some of these guys to run an AWD from 0-120 isn't always easy.
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I thought it was more of a 40-160 kind of runs they do... CAN'T WAIT! DIE SNOW DIE! A 0-160 would be nice though.
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What site are those guys on. I was on it once but dont rember what it is, anyone know?
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Xrated I think.
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Getting them to run from a dig is just a matter of proper public taunting at the right place and time. There is too much ego in that crowd for them to turn down public challenges. But I am guessing the first time one of them gets seriously ass pounded, they will be back with about 20K more invested the next weekend wanting revenge. Either way, they are never going to be considered easy marks. Respect has to be given, they are damn quick and that saleen hooks up quite nicely.

From past experience with these guys though, it would be best to run them at the track so they have no excuses or disputes about who won, jumped the start etc. They seem to always find a reason why a 4 banger hung with them or even beat them like john last year. I still can't believe the comment by Sloss about Johns galant, "Well of course he hung with, thats a full out race car" like his saleen was some stupid commuter car or something.
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I deffinatly agree. that saleen is just designed to hook up! damn that thing...but so is AWD...
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That's the same Sloss that John Raced last year. The thread about the Saleen vs John on xrated. I believe is going to be deleted soon. Due to it been so old.

However mnracing has a thread going about the T51R Supra Race.

Like Shane said to hang with his car you'll need to be trapping in the 130 range.

Last year john hung with him right to the end and from my perspective it looked like John always pulled ahead during each gear but then lost ground during the shift due to slow shifting. Then raced well into the 140mph range. and were side by side. John was running pump gas and Sloss was on Race. Sloss mentioned/claims that he was holding back though. Which is probable considering 130mph tramp vs. 123mph trap.

Anycase I'm looking forward to this summers activities.
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Holding back my ass, from the 15-140 roll on race we where side by side, then the 0-90 I was a few cars ahead, then missed 4th. I was on pump gas and 1 week of tunning with the AEM EMS, there was A LOT more in the car. So I will race these guys in my 90 Tsi Awd which is faster(according to ryan) then the galant on pump and faster on c-16 and 30+ psi, I am in. I also heard due to the race with me he is hogging his 351 out to a 405 and twin turboing it or somthing crazy like that. I will register at xrated and see what was said.

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Sloss actually bought a new Saleen.

The S351R - which is lighter and has more HP. and is expecting to be in the 135mph trap range. according to the post on mnracing.org
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its the same car that he had before but its not a vert just a coupe... as far as i know
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I think it is newer too from what I heard. They supposedly updated it with more power.
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Since Andy N and I first started racing back with the domestics a few years ago when it was a Phone call deal. Sloss has brought / owned 3 different Saleens.


I know nothing about what the S351R spec/looks like but this is a entirely new car for him.

However I though someone mentioned to me the other day that they stopped making Saleens back in like 2001? or something.

anycase the saleen that Sloss raced John with wasn't stock either. it was modified. As I'm sure this S351R will be as well.


The supra is running a T51R turbo. (which is Medium to Large in the supra world)


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Originally posted by SlowWhite@Feb 17 2004, 03:15 PM
The supra is running a T51R turbo. (which is Medium to Large in the supra world)
Anyone know which T51R he is running? One is big the other is extra big.
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