wish i had a 3kvr4 :(

HiImBrian · 06-14-2007

So I was drivin north on hemlock today and a pretty sweet newer 3000gt vr4 came up next to me at a light. We did the "hey nice car" exchance and talked briefly at the next few lights. He had some nice lookin mitsu 5 spokes and the ugly (imo) ricer version wing on the back. He gunned it a few times and the stupid thing just lurched back and took off. It made me and my laggy 50 trim just tear up a little. Aw it made me wish I woulda baught a 3s vr4 instead of the 2g gsx. I know I'm not supposed to say that, but that fool was runin 13psi on stock turbos!

**scheides** · 06-14-2007

they can make pretty decent power, even on the stock turbos. How much power is your 50-trim putting down? I'm sure it would have been a close race...

HiImBrian · 06-14-2007

I'm making a sad 265awhp. I just hate having to come from behind EVERY time.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo · 06-15-2007

You woulda raped him. I despise those cars. :-)

Swifty1638 · 06-15-2007

3's on stock turbos at 8psi equal 1 16g. That's why, when they upgrade to 16g's, they make 60x whp!

-A. Swift

Kougar · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX

....Aw it made me wish I woulda baught a 3s vr4 instead of the 2g gsx....!

I don't think you'd be saying that when you're working on it

HiImBrian · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Kougar

I don't think you'd be saying that when you're working on it

Exactly. The only thing I don't like about em is they are hard to work on and parts are hella expensive. But the thing is you don't eed to do much work because they are so quick even with stock turbos.

b00stcreep21 · 06-15-2007

Stock turbo 3s's usually put down about that, with more power under the curve than your 50. I've gotten used to working on them, so they're not bad for me. But they're still das boat's of a car

**Kracka** · 06-15-2007

I like 3/S's, they are like grown up DSM's.

Are you sure it was a ricer wing and not a '99 wing?

http://www.autoworld.com/news/Mitsubishi/3000GT-VR4.jpg

**LSE Performance** · 06-15-2007

I usually wish the same thing, but the key to DSMs is that they are cheap. SO as long as I remember that i stay happy. - Aaron

HiImBrian · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

I like 3/S's, they are like grown up DSM's.

Are you sure it was a ricer wing and not a '99 wing?

http://www.autoworld.com/news/Mitsubishi/3000GT-VR4.jpg

Yea it was the 99 wing, I just don't like em. They don't fit with the rest of the car lol

HiImBrian · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by LSE Performance

I usually wish the same thing, but the key to DSMs is that they are cheap. SO as long as I remember that i stay happy. - Aaron

Yea but with the 3kvr4 you dont need to put much money into em to get 12s like you do with dsms. So in the end I guess they kinda even out. My main thing is I just hate coming from behind in any race. Waiting for the turbo to hit boost just sucks donkey dick. Having two smaller ones just sounds so much nicer.

curt_gendron · 06-15-2007

A BPU 3/S will put down around 250 to 270AWHP on the LSE dyno. So your numbers are in that range. But obviously the 3/S was spooling faster, so it got into the power range quicker.

The nice thing about a 3/S, is you can get to BPU pretty easy, and its very reliable horsepower. But it gets expensive after that. So if you want a sexy, reliable, Mitsu that can run 12.9s all day in the 1/4 mile, then a 3/S is a good way to go.

If you want an inexpensive Mitsu that has poentential for 11s and you are willing to do it cheaply but be ready to turn a wrench. Well, then a DSM is a better fit.

I'm an oddball because I rely on a DSM to be my reliable, daily driver, with very few mods. My 3/S is the one I take to the track and I'm ready to watch it break.

later,
Curt

b00stcreep21 · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by curt_gendron

I rely on a DSM to be my reliable, daily driver, with very few mods. My 3/S is the one I take to the track and I'm ready to watch it break.

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

tpunx99GSX · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by b00stcreep21

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

LMFAO.
Curt you definatly have some clean dsms and 3/s's.

**JET** · 06-15-2007

If you are launching from a dig, then you shouldn't have to worry about turbo spool and if you are from a roll there shouldn't be much either, unless you are in the wrong gear. With the weight difference you should have beat him pretty easily.

3S's are nice cars and can be made pretty quick, but DSM's are cheap powa. Both have their good and bad points.

**LSE Performance** · 06-15-2007

50 trim DSM isn't for you then my good man, you probably wanted to stay with a 16G, preferably EVO3 style.
Thats teh other part of the story is weight, DSMs have a little less.
I ran a 12.9 on my B16G, DSMlink car, my bro went 12.7 with it. So we figured the thing has a 12.6 in it.
Granted not as cushy as a 3/S. But done cheaply on a junk motor with all used parts apart from the link.

crazy_skier · 06-15-2007

well you could just go 2.4 and then have 16G spool....... I almost want a bigger turbo now. What is the a/r? I had a .48 on on the 2.0 it wasnt bad

HiImBrian · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by JET

If you are launching from a dig, then you shouldn't have to worry about turbo spool and if you are from a roll there shouldn't be much either, unless you are in the wrong gear. With the weight difference you should have beat him pretty easily.

3S's are nice cars and can be made pretty quick, but DSM's are cheap powa. Both have their good and bad points.

That's the thing thought, I haven't gotten my laptop hooked up to dsmlink yet because of mac/dsmlink issues. So my launch is as good as a fwd car almost because I don't hit boost untill about 4-5'gs. And the 3s has such longer gears its crazy. I'm out of first gear barley before I hit full boost.

HiImBrian · 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by LSE Performance

50 trim DSM isn't for you then my good man, you probably wanted to stay with a 16G, preferably EVO3 style.
Thats teh other part of the story is weight, DSMs have a little less.
I ran a 12.9 on my B16G, DSMlink car, my bro went 12.7 with it. So we figured the thing has a 12.6 in it.
Granted not as cushy as a 3/S. But done cheaply on a junk motor with all used parts apart from the link.

I had the 16g for a while but never really got to use it since I upgraded to the 50trim before ever getting injectors and fuel. I love the bigger turbo but im just hating the turbo lag. Hopefully I'll be able to up the boost a little more soon and then I'll be happy. But aw man I could spin all 4 wheels with the 16g and I can barley chirp them with this turbo. I guess that's a good thing in a way, but aw man I'm all for having enough power to throw the car around haha. Maybe when I crankwalk lol I'll do a 2.4 if I've got the money.