Cheap Fmic's

[Kracka]

If anyone is interested, AHP has his 1G and 2G Stage 2 FMIC kits on sale for a very good price ($695).

click here fool (http://ahpproducts.com/id31.html)

[Halon]

talk about LONG route piping!!

[Kracka]

Yes, he designed both for ease of installation. The 1G piping routes through the stock location similar to the Apexi and GReddy 2G kits. On the 2G kit, the inlet pipe runs around the driver's side of the radiator, and the outlet runs through the stock location. Archer is an AHP vendor and has his 2G kit on one of their shop cars and it looks VERY nice.

[PSI2HI]

We're gonna be having our own kits for the 1G's here real soon. Just trying to get the end tanks finished up. They are going to be using a 24x12 core and short route piping just as the street/race cores do. Gonna be shooting for the $750-800 range complete w/ everything needed for install.

Nick

[Halon]

that sounds like a pretty good deal. The AHP one i noticed too seems kinda small. I'd want 24" long at the least. I think his are like 20" long. Also I don't like his endtanks. The design seems wierd, like how it comes into the intercooler on the left then goes thru and has to do UP and out of the driver side endtank. Also i don't like how noticable the welds are on his endtanks. In a way it sorta looks sloppy. And lastly, i dunno how it works for you guys since u could just drive there, but i had ordered a catback from him shipped to Arizona, and it took me about 6 months to receive it. Talk about a major pain in the ass. But i do agree that he has put a nice sale price tag on em!

[A//// Guy]

Unless you are pushing 600-800 horses you will never reach teh potential of using all of the 24 inches.... an 8x16 suits almost all dsm needs. Some people think its always bigger the better. The bigger you get the less efficient it is.

[JET]

Actually the efficiency will go up. The psi drop will go up slightly (all else being equal) and the amount of lag will go up too. Not to mention the extra weight and installation becoming more difficult along with a higher cost. The downside is small to a larger intercooler, except for the cost. There is, of course, a point of diminishing returns.

[1QUICK4]

Do you guys thin one of those 1G stage II's will support about 450WHP? (60 trim)

[A//// Guy]

Originally posted by JET@Dec 16 2003, 07:55 PM
Actually the efficiency will go up. The psi drop will go up slightly (all else being equal) and the amount of lag will go up too. Not to mention the extra weight and installation becoming more difficult along with a higher cost. The downside is small to a larger intercooler, except for the cost. There is, of course, a point of diminishing returns.
Yea your right I meant power efficiency. Pressure drop etc. you will get much more power if there is less pressure drop, therefor if you have a "sweet huge" core and are making only 300 horses your actually not even making the power you could be with a "ratio sized core."
But then again if you by a small one then you have to upgrade like Jet said. How many people actually get up to 800 horses anyway ;)

[JET]

It should do that fine. I don't like the piping though. The SLS is much better as far as piping goes. It will cause more lag, psi drop and weight. It is a decent price though and far superior to the SMIC. You also get to deal with AHP's infamous customer service and delivery times.