Is The War In Iraq Worth Fighting?

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Originally posted by ghettostyle@Oct 12 2004, 09:57 AM

This it the thing about some of you republicans.* You can never seem top look outside of the box on issues.* You go to the polling station and mark everybox down under republican no matter who is running.* I am sure if Osama Bin Ladden was running as a republican he would show a good amount of votes since some of you idiots cant seem to pull your head out of your ass and look at a different view.* Have you noticed what a 3rd party does to elections?* It takes votes away from the democrats because of the republicans who will never look outside of the republican party.* BEING A REPUBLICAN CANIDATE DOESN'T MEAN THE PERSON IS ANY BETTER.
I thought this thread was about the war not how Republicans or Democrats suck? :stick:

I also find it funny that a hardcore non-republican knows exactly how republicans think and what their veiws are. Is that what they are teaching in college now? (know your enemy lol)

PS do you know how ridiculous that voting for Osama comment sounds.

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I am not for biased for either side. Last election, I was for bush, but this year I am not. As far as the Bin Ladden thing goes, some people would probably vote for him if he was under the republican ticket.

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Originally posted by ghettostyle@Oct 12 2004, 05:56 PM
As far as the Bin Ladden thing goes, some people would probably vote for him if he was under the republican ticket.
I know what you ment but it is still ridiculous

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Ok Ladies, back to the first question:

Is the war worth fighting.


In speaking to my friend Dave who is spending his SECOND tenure in Iraq, I've found that the news makes it seem a lot worse than it is. Don't get me wrong, IT'S BAD, but they don't all hate us. A few of em' do. For the most part, they need us there. I don't agree with the way that the president went about gaining support for the war, but going was absolutely necessary.

I heard someone say, "Why not wait till he was a real problem, not just a little one"

Isn't that what Clinton said about Osama Bin Ladin?

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Kerry does not pull me in his direction at all. There are several key issues for me that Bush will do right on. Many of the issues that you dems are sighting do not mean as much to me such as health care, taxes on the middle/lower class, and outsourcing jobs. I believe in less government wherever possible, though sometimes it is necessary for someone to step in and regulate things a little. I wont sit and tell you that Bush can do no wrong, and that he has never made a mistake, but I'm going to vote for him because my core beliefs have little to nothing in common with Kerry's polices (that I know of??? he's not been very clear, other than to say he "has a plan") while all the most important issues to me are more in line with Bushes policies.

I also like the fact that Bush will follow through. You cant knock down the door to Iraq, poke your head in and go "whoops, my bad." And though I wont say war was an absolute necessity, I most certainly wont condemn it until the final results are seen.

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You cant knock down the door to Iraq, poke your head in and go "whoops, my bad."
We had an easy chance to do that before we attacked them. The time would have been when the inspectors found nothing as far as WMDs. They found nothing and Bush said so what, lets bomb the shit out of them!

my core beliefs have little to nothing in common with Kerry's polices 
You have no care about the well being of the american citizens? Health car is a big problem today. Without it, many people are going to die. I eighter posted it on this thread or the other (the stats since Bush cam into office). His "new" plan is only going to cover 2-3 million people. Kerrys plan is expected to cover 27 million. Yeah it is going to cost 5 times as much but I feel it is needed. Outsourcing and the economy are also great issues I care about. I have to worry about how I can support myself or a family in the future. If the economy go to shit (well, worse than it is) it is going to be very hard for me to get a job out of school.
I have to start my damn homework now. I will catch up with other posts later.

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Oct 12 2004, 10:03 PM
The time would have been when the inspectors found nothing as far as WMDs. They found nothing and Bush said so what, lets bomb the shit out of them!


If you were watching the news before the war Hanz (sp) and his group of UN inspectors were getting nothing but problems/hassles trying to inspect possible sights. They were being refused entry to many places.

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When we busted in the door on Iraq we had the entire United Nations going "Yeah, there're deffinately WMD's in there." Now, they may not have wanted to go to war, but they were just as sure as we were when we went in that they were there. Whether they are there or not now makes no difference for the time being. It'll make a difference when all is said and done, but for now we need to stay the course.



And you and I have different ideas of American well being. I dont think Gov't subsidized healthcare is the way to go. I dont even have med ins. right now, but you know whos fault that is? Mine. You know whos gonna fix it? Me.
I'd love for everyone to be able to figure this out. For some it will be a harsh lesson. In the end it will cost us all the same....right? Oh, wait, no. The RICH people should have to subsidize the poor's healthcare.

See, in my mind that isnt right. In yours it may be. This is why you will vote for Kerry and I will vote for Bush. I dont plan on ever being rich enough to benefit from "my way of thinking" but that doesnt matter to me. For me, that's what's right.

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Originally posted by 92tsiawd84+Oct 10 2004, 01:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (92tsiawd84 @ Oct 10 2004, 01:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-1QUICK4@Oct 10 2004, 12:08 AM
What would you call these people who are blowingup children, civilians, and our troops in Iraq?

I would say that they are trying to defend their country like the rest of us would hopefully do if we were invaded.

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An update on your "people just defending their country" (foriegn insurgents)

I guess the REAL IRAQIS are finnally fed up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6229305/

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Seems they uncovered a couple of new mass graves in Iraq as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/...aves/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/index.html)

a quote from this article
"Human rights groups believe about 300,000 people were killed during Saddam's 24-year rule, which ended when U.S.-led forces toppled his regime in 2003."

I hope this opens peoples eyes to what a bad person Saddam really was and why he needed to be removed from power.

And you can find both of these last stories I posted on ALL the major news websites. Not just FOX news ;) :lol: