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JasonR
10-10-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by 92tsiawd84+Oct 10 2004, 10:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (92tsiawd84 @ Oct 10 2004, 10:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JasonR@Oct 10 2004, 04:17 AM
The biggest act of terror is not war, it is causing intense demoralization and intimidation through any means necessary, hence 9/11.&nbsp; We are not terrorists!
I dont believe Korea is more of a threat to are national security then Saddam was.
Knowing that Korea has WMD does not make them a bigger threat than Iraq?

* I would vote for Bush if your so concerned about Korea because he is the only one that will take action.*
Well, four year in office, we have gone to war twice. Under Bush, I am afraid that he is going to take on Iran and N. Korea at the same time. Ofcourse we will not have Ossama yet and will be waging four wars at the same time (Ossama, Iraq, Iran, and N. Korea). How do you expect to accomplish this without a draft? It seems as if Bush and Cheney would not have a problem implimenting a draft. At the same time, with everyone at war, who would be here to protect us against acts of terrorism? Out of the three countries in the middle east that "had" WMDs we attacked the one that didn't. How do you think it would be fighting a war with WMDs being used against us?

Terrorism has been growing.* Americans are not hated more than ever, they are hated by terrorists.*
If we are waging the "war against terror" would it be safe to say that we are losing then? If terrorism is growing and we are hated more by terrorists, doesn't that mean that we are at a larger risk of being attacked that we were before?

Most of the terrorists doing this stuff aren't even Iraqis, so how are they defending their county? Besides, How is blowing up your fellow citizens defending your country anyway?

Facts/sources/links please. I haven't seen anything that supports that Iraqis are blowing them selves up. Like I said, I would like to believe that we are not doing more harm than good but I cannot yet. [/b][/quote]
Bush said no draft. Did you even watch the debate. Technology prevents us from needing more troops to fight the war on terror. Why do you believe we need more troops. Your not listening or thinking. Has n. korea invaded anyone, killed their own people, no. Ofcourse we are struggling with the war against terror. Do you think this is going to end soon. Try a very long time. We are at war against terrorism and that means iran, n korea, ossama and anyone else who threatons us in the future. You may be surprised what Iran, korea, ossama do now because they know we are not going to be pushed around. Republicans will not allow terrorism on are front yard in are own country. With kerry as president you can expect are efforts to protect us to implode because Bush takes action. kerry is simply using the war as a way to get in office, but it makes him look dumb because all he does is point fingers. You want facts/sources/links. I would listen closer during the debate, read the paper, news. I have givin my opinion. War on iraq is worth fighting. Even your buddy kerry (assuming you like him or something) agrees if you actually listened to the debate.

Alpine TSi
10-10-2004, 01:00 PM
What did I say, Tom, you were just going to open your mouth again and look even more dumb. Good job, it is nice to see that Michael Moore has infected one of America's great minds. :rolleyes:

slowbubblecar
10-10-2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by JasonR@Oct 10 2004, 11:47 AM


Technology prevents us from needing more troops to fight the war on terror. Why do you believe we need more troops.
How has technology made it so we don't need anymore troops? Did we finally start sending robots over there? As far as the troops go, more dieing means more needed. Especially if we want to take on 2 more countries. Does the war on Iraq make you feel safer here? All that has happened from it is increased the risk for other things to happen here. Do you think some people might be scared when the risk of terrorist attacks go up? If we are doing the right thing in Iraq, why are there only very few countries backing us up on the war on terrorism? They aren't even helping us a lot. Arent we funding/controlling most of the war?

npaulseth
10-10-2004, 09:18 PM
We went to Iraq technically over WMDs and Saddams breaking of UN resolutions. If you would have listened to Bush's state of the union address, thier is 0% possiblity you could deny WMDs were a reason for going to war.

A//// Guy
10-10-2004, 09:22 PM
Now we just have to follow where they went... Do I here Iran?

He had them and now they are gone... Did they really search Iraqs deserts that closely?

I am certain that saddam had WMD, key word is HAD.

LightningGSX
10-10-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by ghettostyle@Oct 10 2004, 08:04 PM

How has technology made it so we don't need anymore troops?&nbsp; Did we finally start sending robots over there?&nbsp; As far as the troops go, more dieing means more needed.&nbsp; Especially if we want to take on 2 more countries.&nbsp; Does the war on Iraq make you feel safer here?&nbsp; All that has happened from it is increased the risk for other things to happen here.&nbsp; Do you think some people might be scared when the risk of terrorist attacks go up?&nbsp; If we are doing the right thing in Iraq, why are there only very few countries backing us up on the war on terrorism?&nbsp; They aren't even helping us a lot.&nbsp; Arent we funding/controlling most of the war?
To answer your questions.

Yes I feel safer knowing there is one less regime capable of producing(and selling) chemical and biological weapons.

No I don't think there is increased risk in the US now.

The reason why there are few countries helping is because they are afraid of terrorist attacks against them.You see, unlike the US, these governments(such as France) would rather give into terrorists and meet their demands, instead of fighting.

1QUICK4
10-10-2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by LightningGSX@Oct 10 2004, 09:14 PM

The reason why there are few countries helping is because they are afraid of terrorist attacks against them.You see, unlike the US, these governments(such as France) would rather give into terrorists and meet their demands, instead of fighting.
Not to mention alot of countries like France & Germany were making mad loot off the oil for food program. And russia was selling them military hardware. And Iraq (Sadam) owed all three of those countries bank.

john
10-11-2004, 08:50 AM
Bush said no draft. Did you even watch the debate.
I have stated several times on here that I have not watched the second debate yet. Bush saying no draft means nothing to me. How many times have people lied so far?

[/QUOTE] Technology prevents us from needing more troops to fight the war on terror. Why do you believe we need more troops.
What technology do you speak of? The last time I thought about war, you needed people. People to opperate machines and fight for you. With people dying and more war soon to come, I believe we need a lot more troops.

We are at war against terrorism and that means iran, n korea, ossama and anyone else who threatons us in the future.
Why hasn't anyone invaded us yet? We have access to WMDs. That is a threat right?

You want facts/sources/links. I would listen closer during the debate, read the paper, news. [QUOTE]
I have been reading the paper and watching the news. I missed the second debate but I have it on tape as I plan on watching it. I have watched a lot of CNN and have started watching the "conservative" news on Fox.

john
10-11-2004, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by CVD@Oct 10 2004, 12:45 PM
suicide bombings (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=tank+picture+suicide+bomber+iraq/v=2/SID=e/l=WS1/R=1/H=0/IPC=us/SHE=0/SIG=11t0i5ntt/*-http%3A//www.buzzle.com/editorials/text9-10-2003-45263.asp)

more suicide bombings (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A26856-2004Jan18¬Found=true)

A short search will bring up many more. And you might notice that WAY more Iraqi's are being targeted than Americans. Most suicide bombings I hear of are directed towards the new Iraqi police forces.

These people arent fighting to take Iraq back. They have it, it belongs to them, not us. They are fighting for power. They want us out so they can take power for themselves, rather than allowing the country to elect it's own leader.
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=tank+pict...-2003-45263.asp (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=tank+picture+suicide+bomber+iraq/v=2/SID=e/l=WS1/R=1/H=0/IPC=us/SHE=0/SIG=11t0i5ntt/*-http%3A//www.buzzle.com/editorials/text9-10-2003-45263.asp)]suicide bombings
I copied this from the first sentence of their text: A suicide car bomber has attacked a US intelligence service base in northern Iraq

I am not sure about you but it sure sounds to me that they were attacking the americans :stick:

more suicide bombings (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A26856-2004Jan18¬Found=true)

Link doesn't work for me.

A//// Guy
10-11-2004, 09:23 AM
-But how many of them are going out of their way to just hurt the US soldiers, versus killing 30 other Iraq people at the same time...

People dont invade us because we are following all the UN rules and we are not a threat becuase we are not threatning neighbors that have no right to be threatned. We threatned and kicked Saddam becuase he wasnt following rules, neither is N Korea and a few other countries. They are trying to be hard asses when it comes down to nuclear policies.

I guess one thing I dont understand is why we can have nuclear weapons (I assume we do, but Im not sure...) but no other countries have the right to have any for defense purposes.

I guess if you control other countries and say they cant have them.. then that policy should be for the US too.