Confederate flag, yes or no?

[tpunx99GSX]

So,....... What about freedom of speech?

What about it? No one is saying that you personally cannot fly the confed flag. they are saying that it should not be flown on government buildings. which is 100% true, because last time i checked even the southern states (whether some people like it or not) are part of the USA.

[1ViciousGSX]

What about it? No one is saying that you personally cannot fly the confed flag. they are saying that it should not be flown on government buildings. which is 100% true, because last time i checked even the southern states (whether some people like it or not) are part of the USA.

Who are "they".
And who are they to say what can and cannot be flown over a building when it comes to history and it's meaning?

[Alpha D]

Can't have your cake and eat it to. Either we have free speech or we don't
Can't regulate away everything somebody dislikes.

I don't see anybody criticizing the Black Panther's flag and what it means,.... How about ISIS,... How about the LGBT flag,... and so on, there will always be somebody not liking it.

^ Now this carries some weight, and I agree....even though im African not African american lol that term makes me laugh. Again i will stick with what i said. The extremes are not ok, extremes cause issues, the either its this way or that way i wont agree with. Politically i stay neutral and to some that's worst that sticking to the wrong side. However not coming to sensible agreements and wanting it your way or the highway DOES NOT WORK lol Somebody answer me why it has to be either complete freedom with no restrictions what so ever, vs freedom with sense and principle?

Are Caesar's laws not there to guide and keep relative order? So why bicker and complain, funny thing is every flag in this solar system has some kind of negative connotation to eat literally every single FLAG period. For anything but discussion and entertainment person this debate is useless....for only unfair judgement will come from it and people on both sides un happy and hurt lol

[Kracka]

Where did you see those being flown?
New Jersey

[tpunx99GSX]

and it wasnt so much about states rights as it was about an opposing army rebelling against the formation of a Union to form the USA. Im sorry but the confederates lost the civil war, and are now part of the USA. The war is not still going on. get over it.
The negative image that is now that flag, is entirely self brought on. Uneducated idiots took it as their symbol that slavery should still exist and to promote a racial boundary. Sure you have your freedom of speech, but even with free speech you are stereotyping yourself with a negative image. Just like the black panther flags make me stereotype them as a angry black man, against whitey, and like was said before Nazi Flags and Tattoos have a negative connotation to them as well. It would be like a skinhead saying his tattoos and flags are not racist, they were about the rise of the german people and taking their country back. Sorry but I am not naive.

[tpunx99GSX]

Who are "they".
And who are they to say what can and cannot be flown over a building when it comes to history and it's meaning?
They, are the people. They are the ones who the government works for. They are the Voters. They are masses of people who disagree with you. They are black, white, asian, brown, native american, hindu, muslim etc.

[Kracka]

It's very simple, let the voters in those states in question decide, it's a state-level issue, not national.

[A//// Guy]

New Jersey

Thats pretty cool, but yea the 13 star flag doesnt have much negative association surrounding it, so it will continue to fly.

How can you guys not see the obvious issues here? Im all for freedom of speech and displaying your history.. but this seems like a common sense issue.

And yes it should be a state issue, not federal. It will get national attention though either way.

[tehehodi]

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[1ViciousGSX]

They, are the people. They are the ones who the government works for. They are the Voters. They are masses of people who disagree with you. They are black, white, asian, brown, native american, hindu, muslim etc.

But this is the beauty of a Republic, the individual is protected from the whims of the masses. Freedom of speech is protected for that reason.