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scheides
03-22-2011, 08:11 PM
For example:
Manifold: 600
turbo: 900
total: 1500


LOL true DSM'er mentality there :D

How about we include ALL of the parts for a real cost tally:
Turbo: $1100-1500 (6262 to an hta, and you better get BB if you want real reliability)
Manifold: $600-1000
O2 housing/Downpipe: $400-700
Wastegate: $400 (? no idea)
Oil and coolant lines: $200-250 (?)
Modify intake: $50-200

The cheapest kit on the market IIRC is around $3000 for a non-hta 35R and cast manifold (buschur's and I hear MAP can get it too), up to $4500-ish for an AMS setup.

A 6262 vs hta3586 is kinda a toss-up to me, I have lusted over hta35R's forever but the 6262 is damn good bang for your buck. Personally I would get FP on the phone, setup something to do a super quick turnaround, and just get the black rebuilt. I'm sure it'll cost around $500 but if they can do it in just a few days + overnight shipping on either end you'll keep downtime to a minimum.

311evo
03-22-2011, 08:18 PM
Real cost Tally, okay. Some of my stuff may be a little off but I've been in contact with only a couple venders so far.

Quoted $1,200 for custom manifold, Tial WG, and dump tube.
$800 for a journal bearing 6262, or $1,600 for the hta86.
$400 for the oil lines and custom o2 housing.

The thing with the black is that I don't know if I want to keep it when I get it back. And if that's the route I want to go then I don't really want to use it at all in order to keep the value up.

Or I could use it and see how long it holds up.

goodhart
03-22-2011, 08:25 PM
LOL true DSM'er mentality there :D

I lol'd at $600 T3 manifold myself :p was just an example, but still.


How about we include ALL of the parts for a real cost tally:
Turbo: $1100-1500 (6262 to an hta, and you better get BB if you want real reliability)
Manifold: $600-1000
O2 housing/Downpipe: $400-700
Wastegate: $400 (? no idea)
Oil and coolant lines: $200-250 (?)
Modify intake: $50-200

The cheapest kit on the market IIRC is around $3000 for a non-hta 35R and cast manifold (buschur's and I hear MAP can get it too), up to $4500-ish for an AMS setup.

A 6262 vs hta3586 is kinda a toss-up to me, I have lusted over hta35R's forever but the 6262 is damn good bang for your buck. Personally I would get FP on the phone, setup something to do a super quick turnaround, and just get the black rebuilt. I'm sure it'll cost around $500 but if they can do it in just a few days + overnight shipping on either end you'll keep downtime to a minimum.

I'll bet Primo can get you taken care of for the EWG/o2 housing setup for a good price.

311evo
03-22-2011, 08:27 PM
I'll be talking to a majority of the local vendors.

mlomker
03-22-2011, 08:51 PM
I've always thought of the HTA82 on a 2ltr or a HTA86 on a stroker the ideal setup. Not sure how much the GTX turbos add to the equation. scheides is right about the cost of the ETS-level kits...a bit crazy.

There's no doubt that it could be done for less locally but in my opinion this is an absolute shit time to start a car project. I know, my car was down this time last year. I caution against it...you could miss half the season due to various backlogs.

scheides
03-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Here's the other thing, if you do that custom setup, how well can it perform and how long will it take to get made? Seems to me the downtime could be huge. I'm just a huge huge fan of stock-frame turbos I guess.

311evo
03-22-2011, 09:35 PM
Here's the other thing, if you do that custom setup, how well can it perform and how long will it take to get made? Seems to me the downtime could be huge. I'm just a huge huge fan of stock-frame turbos I guess.

True, those are things that I do not know. I'm sure it would perform well considering who would be making it. The downtime would suck, but so does the wait time from FP.

goodhart
03-22-2011, 09:39 PM
BBK-B + 50 shot. just another idea ;)

311evo
03-22-2011, 09:43 PM
lol, If I change from the black it will only be something a little bigger.

But I've thought about adding a small shot. Would be fun.

dzuest
03-22-2011, 10:21 PM
maybe i missed it but, what was the reason behind them not doing a warranty on the Black???