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Kracka
03-31-2010, 01:33 PM
Are we going to blame that on a Mitsu design problem? If you insist.
I would. 4G63's don't use any stupid [thin] dual cam caps with bearings in them. Fine for stock I'm sure which seems to Mitsu's intent and concern for many of the common X failure points when modified.
Matt D.
03-31-2010, 01:34 PM
As posted on MNSubaru, I thought of this video immediately upon seeing this thread.

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I agree with exactly what Jeremy said. For sporty fun and track duty, Evo all the way. If I didn't give a damn about racing and just wanted something fun to drive on a daily basis, I'd take the STI.
Matt D.
03-31-2010, 01:35 PM
I was going to say, don't kid yourself. You just drive a newer, more expensive DSM. Give it 15 years, and you'll see.
15 years? Try 7. Ask me about the random shit I've had to fix on my car.
s1ngletracker
03-31-2010, 01:37 PM
if prepared correctly, either car will be good for rally ..
Swifty1638
03-31-2010, 01:40 PM
Matt I know. Even scheides and the wiring issue..it's all etc.
mlomker
03-31-2010, 01:43 PM
I would. 4G63's don't use any stupid [thin] dual cam caps with bearings in them.

I guess we'll see how that works out over time. Trevor (and others) have had issues with their heads a lot sooner than I think is reasonable. If Mitsu switched to something with better longevity in return for having to be careful when swapping cams (a rare event for most people) then it might be worth it.
Swifty1638
03-31-2010, 01:45 PM
^this is due to the fact that every manufacturer does what they can to cut costs. It's easier to cast 1 solid piece then 2 seperate programs, pieces, etc. Cheaper it can be made, they will do it. Cars just aren't made like they used to be. Toyota uses this design, but it works quite well. I have yet to see one snap, but at the same time theirs is a bit more beefy.

Back on topic..good video matt.
Kracka
03-31-2010, 01:46 PM
Yeah we will definitely see how things turn out in the long run. The common issue on the 8/9 heads seem to be leaky valve seals with both stock and aftermarket cams. I'm willing to blame any lifter/rocker issues on aftermarket cam installation error.
Matt D.
03-31-2010, 02:02 PM
if prepared correctly, either car will be good for rally ..
Agreed, I also don't buy the Subaru symmetrical AWD system being superior in any way, shape or form.
Kracka
03-31-2010, 02:07 PM
Agreed, I also don't buy the Subaru symmetrical AWD system being superior in any way, shape or form.
MNSubaru sure seems to think it is, but I don't buy it either. Does the STI have a front LSD?