Which wideband should I use with AEM EMS?

[FattyBoomBatty]

A wideband is one of the things I want to get for my car, and right now, there's an innovative LM-1 up for sale on mnsc for 2 hundro. First, is that a good deal (not so important), and second, does the AEM uego work better with the AEM EMS than other wideband setups?

And If I were to buy one, can I eliminate the narrow band and use its wires going to the ecu for the wideband. I assume there's an option in the software to enable the regular input to read 0-5v instead of 0-1v.

Thanks!

[Tachyon]

LM-1 Kits typically start at around $280 new and go up from there. Both Innovate and AEM use the Bosch sensor in their kits so I can imagine there being any differences in the readings. There was a rumor a while back that you had to use the UEGO in order to achieve proper closed loop operation, but that was rubbish - anything from LC-1's to FJO's work in this mode.

I'm not sure of what inputs you can control with AEM so I'll let somebody else answer the last question.

[Kracka]

Check out the PLX as well, no calibration needed and it uses the same Bosch sensor as the Innovate LC-1.

I personally have the LC-1 wired into my ECU for logging, but I don't have a gauge or display for it. I was tempted to try the PLX but decided just to go with the LC-1 since it was proven to work with the Evo ECU.

http://www.maperformance.com/plx-devices-sm-afr.html

http://www.maperformance.com/innovate-lc-1-cable-standalone-wideband-controller-with-o2-sensor.html

[dsm9sec]

I like my AEM WB O2. Comes w/ gauge and I only paid $280? A few years ago.

[User Name]

I'm not going to be on an EMS, but I have read plenty of good things about the AEM Uego, and it just so happens there's a 10% rebate on their products this month.

If you search, there is a whole shootout post in the forums on wb02's.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Check out the Zeitronix and NGK AFX also. You can use higher quality wideband sensors with the NGK AFX, if you want, instead of the failure prone/short life span Bosch sensor. Any should work with the AEM with it's calibration table and gains setup right.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Ok, I will check those out. Can I use the existing O2 wires for the wideband as well, or will I have to run new wires to the AEM?

I mean from the wideband output to the ECU.

[Kracka]

Ok, I will check those out. Can I use the existing O2 wires for the wideband as well, or will I have to run new wires to the AEM?

I did on my Evo, I'm sure you can on the AEM.

*edit*
See Shane's response below.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

You normally run 1 wire from your wideband to the AEM, into the primary front #1 sensors old signal. The AEM EMS doesn't support stock style O2 sensors at all.

[FattyBoomBatty]

Well then, lol. I guess I shouldn't have bought that stock style O2. Thanks for helping out guys.