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1quickmx6
02-29-2004, 04:55 AM
i know, and i am aware of the stress that is put on the vehicle. I barely ever beat on my car, well except when i deem necessary. Yeah shit can happen, and chances are that it will happen at the worst time possible. The more you dont take care of your vehicle and beat the hell out of it constantly, chances are that something stupid will happen. Take for instance, his shit blew up becuase he was bein a jackass, but thats the chance that u have too take when u modify and race your car.

unreal808
02-29-2004, 09:09 AM
1Gs are better mechanically fit and finish... 2Gs are pretty IMOP. :bj:

1ViciousGSX
02-29-2004, 09:25 AM
Buy what YOU like. Crankwalk is slightly overated. DSMTuners did a POLL (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15307&highlight=crankwalk+poll) and it was surprising how low the CW numbers really were. Each car has it's advantages/disadvantages. There are parts on the 1g which are better (intake manifold, throttle body, head, rods, etc.) and there are parts on the 2g which are better (pistons, MAF, exhaust manifold, O2 housing, etc.)

You can make over 400hp reliably if tuned correctly, I made 390-400whp on mine and it stayed together (until I took it apart ;) ). That would calculate out to about 460hp at the crank on a stock short block. My 7-bolt didn't crankwalk either (only had 59k when I pulled it, but the crank is still well within spec) and I had a CM 2500lb pressure plate on it.

As far as the oil squirter being a problem if they clogged up, it's actually the other way around. A clogged oil squirter would raise the oil pressure at the main bearing. A squirter that is stuck open would lower the oil pressure at the main bearing. Even so, no one has proven it's the cause. The 4g63 oil system is very good, so I doubt an open squirter could flow enough to kill the oil pressure.

SquackDiddy
02-29-2004, 10:10 PM
what about the 1g 7bolts, what is the CW rate for those? is it less than the 2g 7bolts?

Shane@DBPerformance
02-29-2004, 10:12 PM
13.7292%

SquackDiddy
02-29-2004, 10:17 PM
13.7292% of , whats the total? is that better then the 2gs?

A//// Guy
02-29-2004, 10:23 PM
Haha. Thats funny. Stop being so scared of crankwalk and just decide. ;) Its not a bid deal. Buy something that you like no matter what car. Make sure its on good condition and dont buy something that is junk. I doubt crankwalk will be one of your major issues anyway ever if you buy a dsm... There will be a whole lot more other issues youll have to play with if you start modding.

Jakey
02-29-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by SquackDiddy@Feb 29 2004, 09:10 PM
what about the 1g 7bolts, what is the CW rate for those? is it less than the 2g 7bolts?
You will never find an accurate statistic portraying the crankwalk rate for 1G 7 bolts or 2G 7 bolts. It is simply not possible to accurately compile a data set about crankwalk because so many people think crankwalk caused their engine to die when it was actually some sort of other problem: mechanical, tuning, ....etc.

SquackDiddy
02-29-2004, 10:28 PM
yeah i guess your right eclipseturbo. i want performance over looks so i guess im going to look for a 1g.

SquackDiddy
03-01-2004, 07:03 AM
wait one more question. are the 1g 7bolt internals are better than the 2g 7bolt?