What Should I Get, 1g Or A 2g Dsm?

[SuperSleeper]

Just get a Dodge Aries and be done with it.

[Raptor]

Oh shit this thread is giving me a headache. Buy whichever one you want, it is your money. CW is a factor in many 2G's, I have checked a lot of them this year and over half were within .001" from being out of spec. That doesn't mean they won't run or indicate failure even, but they were well on their way to death. I wouldn't let that be the factor in why you buy a certain car though. If you are into these cars for serious performance reasons, you will be updating the motor anyway, 1G or 2G. If your goals are just to have a nice cruiser, it doesn't really matter what you get as long as you check it over before you buy it and maintain it properly. All cars have the potential for walking, not all at the same percentage, but there is no completely safe way to go.

I will take a 1G any day for tons of reasons and I am sure everyone has heard them before so I will save the keystrokes.

The white one John referred to as a QPR car, was just here for a wiring harness and lifters. We checked the end play on the crank just to give the owner a heads up. I wouldn't call it a QPR car though as beyond that and a clutch install before, we havn't had anything to do with it's buildup. His car is at the end of spec as well for CW, but still is running and probably will last at least this summer.

[1quickmx6]

Personally im not the biggest DSM fan but, i would have 2 say.... go with the 1g. The 2gs had this little problem that haunts many DSM tuners, known as crank walk. At around 100k miles the bottom-end blows outta your car. I saw a video of a 2g GSX race a newer M3, the DSM looked super quick, heard it ran a low 13. But anyways he blew the motor to hell racing the M3. But than again the 2gs do look better than the 1g, but please dont put a gay bodykit on it!

[v8klla]

Originally posted by 1quickmx6@Feb 29 2004, 01:39 AM
Personally im not the biggest DSM fan...
I think you may be on the wrong site ;)

And there really isn't a specific mileage at which time crankwalk occurs, if it ever does. And the "bottom end of the motor" doesn't "blow out" the crank play is a gradual death, evenually it starts tapping the crank angle sensor and causes problems there.

[1quickmx6]

yes, not the biggest fan. But i do like the DSMs in general. I know about all that bullshit about the crank walk. And i do know 4 a fact that you know a hell of alot more about that car and motor than me. my bad

[v8klla]

Didn't mean to offend you, I am just one of the guys that finds the fear of crankwalk pretty unreasonable...You already know that if you read the rest of this post ;)

In any case, welcome to the site!

Chris

[1quickmx6]

no, u didnt offend me, but thanks anyways. Im just stating the 2gs do have a potential problem with crank walking. The DSM that i was talking about that blew up racing the M3, some how managed to blow the whole bottom end out of his motor. Which im sure is the worst case sinaro, and doesnt happen that often. thanks for the welcome. Ryan

[Kracka]

Buy what you like and what you can afford, not what others like. It is your money, be happy with what you choose. Whatever car you buy, have a shop or DSM person check it out to make sure its all good.

[Kracka]

Originally posted by 1quickmx6@Feb 29 2004, 04:43 AM
no, u didnt offend me, but thanks anyways. Im just stating the 2gs do have a potential problem with crank walking. The DSM that i was talking about that blew up racing the M3, some how managed to blow the whole bottom end out of his motor. Which im sure is the worst case sinaro, and doesnt happen that often. thanks for the welcome. Ryan
I know exactly which video you are talking about, and it had absolutely nothing to do with crankwalk. The kid was just a fucktard...also it really doesn't matter what kind of car you drive, if you race it a lot something will eventually break.

[JET]

Originally posted by 1quickmx6@Feb 29 2004, 03:25 AM
yes, not the biggest fan. But i do like the DSMs in general. I know about all that bullshit about the crank walk. And i do know 4 a fact that you know a hell of alot more about that car and motor than me. my bad
Crankwalk isn't a huge deal. It affects about 20% of the modified 2g's at some point. Like Chris said, it doesn't matter the mileage. Get a 1g and call it good. It is lighter and has virtutally no posiiblity of crankwalk, and also takes more power stock. Excuse the typing, but I am hammered, right Andy? :P 1G''s Rule!! :3gears: