DSM: 16G & Cams

[scheides]

Hey guys, I remember a thread a while back where we were all recommending someone with a big 16g upgrade to a 50 trim instead of getting some beefy cams for his setup.

Just out of curiosity, how much power (whp, local dynos) are guys with a well-setup (fmic, full exhaust, 550cc injectors, decent tuning method) DSM making with a 16G and some big cams, like BC 280's, HKS 280's, 272's, etc.

I just was thinking about this older thread today and how the 50-trim was everyone's answer, and here I am today with a 16G (evo) on my car and hks 280's, happy as a clam with the ~40whp extra they gave my 4G63.

Anyhew, dyno graphs would be awesome (LSE, DB?), any specifics would be nice too.

Thx all!

[JET]

You have a much better 16g than what is available for a DSM though. The older 16g's just run out of steam on the top end too quickly. A E316g would hold a bit better, but didn't he have a small/big 16g?

[Thor06]

I would also be interested in this. I am going for the "stockish look" on my car and I was wondering what kind of power is achievable so I have an idea what to shoot for on the dyno. By the time dyno time rolls around (end of next summer) I hope to have an adaquate fuel system (joining the FlexFuel mafia), DSMlink, FP2's (272's), big 16g, supra side mount w/hard pipes, 3" exhaust, blah blah blah.

[Halon]

Ya Chris, you EVO guys have the crazy 16g's that seem to put out damn near what 20g's put out.

[turbotalon1g]

I have the B16G, and it sucks, drops down to 18psi, loses steam by 6000.
i would say that new 18G, or an evo3 16G.
I am wondering about the cams too, i have BC280s and i have heard nothing but good about them.
that setup on E85, reliable quick DSM.
If i was ever unhappy with my setup i would come back to a 2.0 and probably the new 18G, if not evo3.

[95tsi]

I have a E16g, cams, fmic, link, and 550's. Just no dyno graph, sorry. Just ran 12.00 at 115 on Wed. So, how bad do you guys want to see some numbers?

[turbotalon1g]

not that bad
^green 2g? dave?

[eclipse_spyder]

How do you tell the difference between the eb16g and the regular b16g? Don't they have the same wheel?

[turbotalon1g]

they have numbers on teh outside, on teh compressor cover that you can use to identify them.

[Thor06]

IIRC, the small 16g has a little bit smaller wheel and turbine than the big 16g and the evo III 16g has a little bit bigger wheel than the big 16g. Lets see if I can find that comparison chart...

Oops, same turbine, just different wheels for each. Linky (http://www.slowboyracing.com/evo16g.htm)