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scheides
06-18-2008, 09:52 AM
Yup, I was just going to say the same thing. Check out Kevin's graph. This is a different turbo, but you'll notice how power does not fall off up top.
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=233613&postcount=39
How much will it help on a 16G? Well, that's a question that I would wonder :)
Shane@DBPerformance
06-18-2008, 10:53 AM
It's a 16G, it probably maxed and it doesn't hold boost. With the 22psi tune, it drops to 21psi by redline. With the 27psi tune it drops to 22psi by redline. So torque/mid range power was up more, but peak was only up 10whp. He has a stock 2G small plenum intake manifold also. Sheetmetal intake manifolds usually help bring up the power past 6500RPMs on 2Gs. It would be interesting to see how much one would help a 16G. I have tuned some setups that had everything for high rpm power, but still couldn't hold power out to revlimiter.
scheides
06-18-2008, 12:09 PM
I am with ya man, but I wonder if it'd really be worth it. The car is mildly unmolested, running a reliable turbo, and making great power for tearing it up on the street....any street!
95tsi, if you ever take your car apart, slap in a JM SMIM and see if it helps :) Until then, tear it up!
Shane@DBPerformance
06-18-2008, 03:08 PM
My wifes car with an SC61 on it, HKS 272 cams and stock 1G intake manifold starts dropping power after 6500.
turbotalon1g
06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
i was just wondering about boost, cause i know CB only has about a 3psi variation i think.
So i figured that if i could get boost to hold at 29psi, which it should do, i would have a tabletop part in the graph.
turbotalon1g
06-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Could we get a graph of RPM vs boost?
Thanks to Dave and Shane@ DB for helping people like me make a good/easier cam choice
95tsi
06-18-2008, 10:16 PM
I'll have to check into the Jm intake... See what happens. I'd love to know if it would help anything up top. Otherwise, I still have a N20 kit lying in the garage... It sure is fun to drive though!!!
95tsi
06-19-2008, 05:10 PM
Could we get a graph of RPM vs boost?
Thanks to Dave and Shane@ DB for helping people like me make a good/easier cam choice
http://www.morcmtb.org/photopost/data/500/06-18-2008_09_18_10PM_Small_.jpg
turbotalon1g
06-20-2008, 06:43 AM
Thanks dave that is awesome.
Basically i have a boost leak issue and i thought that it was just that, not the turbo, because i have seen a few people hold 27+psi all the way to redline.
At-Least-It's-An-Evo
06-20-2008, 08:56 AM
358awhp on a DD is some good power for a 16g. My (bolt-on 50 trim/Comp 101200 cams'd/stock 1g intake mani) 1g made pretty much the same power (when converted down to a dyno dynamics) and was a little bit laggier. I was on 28-29 psi on 111octane.
This is ancient but a fair comparison. I believe it'd make about 350 on a dyno dynamics nowadays but you can see it was l ike 500 rpms laggier.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/guessd/cherdyno.jpg
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