Terrorist...

santa · 07-07-2005

So I'm suprised no one posted yet about this. The attack on london this morning. Derka Derka!! I hate terrorist's!

Kevin

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

Yeah it sucks! Just like the gas prices. They just went up another 5 cents this morning. 93 octane is now $2.50/gall.

Jakey · 07-07-2005

I'd rather pay high gas prices than have to read about innocent people being killed by these **********.

LightningGSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Jakey

I'd rather pay high gas prices than have to read about innocent people being killed by these **********.

Just thought I would add, most ********** are very peaceful people.Its the extremist ones that deserve the negative names

EDIT: As tragic as these attacks are, I would expect to them escalate(and continue to escalate) in the near future.IMHO This is WW3, but the enemies are just less defined as previously

Enes · 07-07-2005

Jakey, I think you should correct your statement!

you don't want me to say anyhting that would stereotype All Americans as ignorant and stupid morons? Becasue they are not!

Not all people are same, the extremists, "**********" as you are saying do not represent all "**********".

Terorists are just that, Terorists, no matter what religion/orientation they are, They can't and don't represent their nation!

-E

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

If they'd put an end to immigration period- we'd have alot less terrorism. At minimum we'd have more control. Still our gov't allows it to continue. Setting up organizations like Homeland Security do little to nothing. All it did was give people jobs. The whole subject of illegal aliens just pisses me off. I live in a town that is full of illegal alien Mexicans. There is a food industry employer that supports it and provides them with jobs. Their community has grown hugely here. In a small town of about 1,200 our crime rate is ridiculous high!! I say ship the fucking fuckers all back where they came from. If they can't respect our laws and rights, then get rid of them. Our government is partially to blame because we don't enforce it.

Enes · 07-07-2005

I am a Muslim, i am not a terrorist, want to kill me?

LightningGSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Enes

Terorists are just that, Terorists, no matter what religion/orientation they are, They can't and don't represent their nation!

-E

I agree fully, they represent none other than their own causes.Its a shame the peacefulness taught in these religions can be skewed the way they are.

LightningGSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Enes

I am a Muslim, i am not a terrorist, want to kill me?

I don't think Jakey meant anything negative about anybody, BUT, those extremists/terrorist we speak of

LightningGSX · 07-07-2005

Another think I'd like to add, I have only met a handful of Muslims, but they were definately more peaceful than the average christian.So in short, If you were to lock me in a room with 10 Muslim extremists and 10 Cristian extremists, I'd be far more concerned of the christians.

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by LightningGSX

I don't think Jakey meant anything negative about anybody, BUT, those extremists/terrorist we speak of

I as well. But if we don't put more controls on things, how are we suppose to filter it all out more?

This isn't the first attack and it sure won't be the last attack. Perhaps, the next one will be on our own grounds again. The problem is we are more Reactive than Proactive. Something happens, then we setup agencies and policies. We elevate threat levels to Orange, Red, but that all fades off and then terror strikes again. We did nothing to correct the problem in the first place.

LightningGSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

I as well. But if we don't put more controls on things, how are we suppose to filter it all out more?

This isn't the first attack and it sure won't be the last attack. Perhaps, the next one will be on our own grounds again. The problem is we are more Reactive than Proactive. Something happens, then we setup agencies and policies. We elevate threat levels to Orange, Red, but that all fades off and then terror strikes again. We did nothing to correct the problem in the first place.

Fact of the matter is, being more proactic has a tendancy to cut into our essential freedoms.I myself, would rather live in fear of a terrorist atack, than have even the smallest of my essential freedoms taken away.

EDIT: The "enemy" we fight are, as much as I hate to say this, are superior to us in may levels.They don't have political BS, democracy, near worthless political braches(which hardly ever read the bills they sign into law) and the general disarray our government does.They live to acheive their objectives, something us Americans will never do.Being proactive is really not an option at all.

Jacek · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

If they'd put an end to immigration period- we'd have alot less terrorism. At minimum we'd have more control. Still our gov't allows it to continue. Setting up organizations like Homeland Security do little to nothing. All it did was give people jobs. The whole subject of illegal aliens just pisses me off. I live in a town that is full of illegal alien Mexicans. There is a food industry employer that supports it and provides them with jobs. Their community has grown hugely here. In a small town of about 1,200 our crime rate is ridiculous high!! I say ship the fucking fuckers all back where they came from. If they can't respect our laws and rights, then get rid of them. Our government is partially to blame because we don't enforce it.

I hope you don't just think that this country is the only place with these issues? I don't think you will ever be able to control it to the fullest because people will always find a way to get by.

tpunx99GSX · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Onefast99gsx

If they'd put an end to immigration period- we'd have alot less terrorism. At minimum we'd have more control. Still our gov't allows it to continue. Setting up organizations like Homeland Security do little to nothing. All it did was give people jobs. The whole subject of illegal aliens just pisses me off. I live in a town that is full of illegal alien Mexicans. There is a food industry employer that supports it and provides them with jobs. Their community has grown hugely here. In a small town of about 1,200 our crime rate is ridiculous high!! I say ship the fucking fuckers all back where they came from. If they can't respect our laws and rights, then get rid of them. Our government is partially to blame because we don't enforce it.

As much as i agree with this, there is not much truth to it.
I went to school in Bemidji for 2 years, and Bemidji as most may not know has the highest crime per capita in the state of Minnesota. How can this be you ask? There are 3 indian reservations surrounding the city, so does this mean we should deport the native americans, oh wait we already deported them to reservations.
Mexicans whether illegal or not do most jobs that Americans would not do, for slave wages. If anything it helps americans get more educated so you can get a job and make a decent living, instead of being stuck in a dead end job.
Tom

sleepy2lazy · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Jakey

I'd rather pay high gas prices than have to read about innocent people being killed by these **********.

This reminds me of the disappearance of the lady in Aruba. The mom IMO dissed out the whole country and their justice system which is basically like ours, Innocent and proven guilty. Tons of protestors have arisen due to her live statements. In a handful, there are only a few that may have turned to the dark side.

I understand what you mean Jakey.

Onefast99gsx · 07-07-2005

Oh no- i don't think that it's just us at all. Iraqi has these attacks daily. Today it was London. Japan or China had a subway attack in the recent years back. More needs to be and should be done. Death by natural or manmade disaster just is part of the way it has to be i guess. If we didn't have it, we'd be way to overpopulated.

A huge percentage of these groups are in fact good and in many cases even better than some of our white trashy people. The fact that these extremeists use religion and say that "Alah" has called upon them to do these acts, don't help matters. When these acts happens it's a proven fact that we stereotype others. When i was at home for lunch, Tony Blair spoke a little bit of the Muslims and things to the nature of what i said.

tpunx99GSX · 07-07-2005

Well if allahs the one making them do this, then damn why dont we kill everyone that praise allah.

Jacek · 07-07-2005

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Well if allahs the one making them do this, then damn why dont we kill everyone that praise allah.

Thats wrong, look at it this way also, we have extremists over here also and they kill themselves and others. Anyone remember any?

Speedfreak · 07-07-2005

You do realize that Allah, is just God in Arabic right? The same God that the Christians believe in and the same God that the Jews believe in...

Enes · 07-07-2005

Tom, please come over, i have something tasty for you, its a bit heavy, and its poisonous if you swalow.... ok ok, its just some lead!