10-05-2004
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 2012 Audi S4
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Okay, so tryin to get my talon up and ready to sell after swappin 14b's out... start it up, and it's just spewing oil. I discover it's coming from the oil feed line on the head, so I unscrew the bolt. How nice--another set of threads is on it. So now those threads are gone completely, and I was hoping to have this thing sold by Wednesday. I understand you can get a oil feed relocation kit. Is that available for all DSMs, or just 2Gs cuz of their gay banjo bolts? Is there any other way other than doing that to fix the problem?
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10-05-2004
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#2
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Blaine
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have mike weld it shut for you.
then use oil filter housing for the oil supply.
but you will need to tow your car there to get that done..
-E
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10-05-2004
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back in the saddle again
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Not to advanced...
1) Head has to be off in order to be welded, no way in hell mike would weld it with it on the car.
I would recommend tapping it larger and pipe plugging it, then use the oil filter housing for oil supply. The heads are a soft aluminum, any decent tap should cut through there easily, just go very very slow and watch where the shavings go. Then put in a larger pipe plug size.
Just my $.02
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10-05-2004
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
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Is RRE the only place that supplies the kit? Is it possible to put together a DIY kit? I kinda don't want to spend the time even waiting for shipping... Thanks btw guys. I freaked out when it first happened, but I suppose it could be worse. Just wanna get rid of the thing. :\
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10-05-2004
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 291
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HRC sells the kits also. don't think you can find the parts at home depot, so you'll have to wait for shipping.
as for tapping the head with it on the car .. jeez. i'd be scared to. if you're really looking for a quick and dirty fix, find a bolt that just barely slides in the hole (yes i know you said the threads are gone) about 3/4" long .. put some starting-to-set jb weld around the bolt body at the head end (so you aren't dripping jb into the head), and slide it in there, let it cure, get the oil feed off the oil filter housing.
personally, as ghetto as jb weld has a reputation for being, i'd rather go a little ghetto than tap the head and have a bunch of aluminum shavings pushed into it.
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10-05-2004
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ConArtist
Join Date: Oct 2003
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If you are careful with the tap and drill, it can be done and you are right, JB weld is pretty ghetto. There are metalic composites out there that can be used such as Devcon that are considerably better than JBweld. In fact some of these are used for casting repair and titanium repair and machinable afterward. But as Josh mentioned, you can tap the head just fine. It isn't a mysterious black hole, the galleys are accessable and the chips can be removed.
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10-05-2004
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: minnesnowta
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Quote:
Originally posted by illz@Oct 5 2004, 03:42 PM
find a bolt that just barely slides in the hole (yes i know you said the threads are gone) about 3/4" long .. put some starting-to-set jb weld around the bolt body at the head end (so you aren't dripping jb into the head), and slide it in there, let it cure, get the oil feed off the oil filter housing.
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this doesnt work...
i tried many many times to do the same thing and oil will always seep through...
but that was like 4 years ago now...
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10-05-2004
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#8
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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My friend Josh was looking at buying this car, please don't pull some ghetto shit to fix it. That's all I ask!!
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10-05-2004
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Drives: 2012 Audi S4
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Has anyone heard of "helicoil"? It seems to be another considered solution, but I truly know nothing about it. Maybe someone more knowledgable could enlighten me...
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10-05-2004
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ConArtist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,960
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Helicoils work fine if you want to restore original thread diameter. I have never used on on a taper thread though, I am not 100% sure they make one for it. Either way, it involves drilling and tapping so you are not saving anything unless you are going to continue using it for the oil feed in which case it will be under pressure and I would double check with the company that makes them that they won't leak. Of course they do have a website >> www.helicoil.com
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