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Old 05-04-2006   #1
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Just got this in an email...

This kinda made me a little pissed off about this whole immegration situation.
This is from a school in Whittier, CA (only about a 30 minute drive from my house)
Heres what the email read along with the pictures....
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Students are In America ! Not Mexico. If you want to stay here America comes first, last ,and always otherwise go back and make it better where ever you came from but don't try to turn my country into yours by ILLEGALLY entering mine and then demanding all the benefits of a LEGAL citizen of our nation ....
NO funding from federal tax dollars for any student out of class that day or any other day for such subversive activities.......teacher led or not.
Subject: American flag v. Mexican flag at CA. high school--disgusting public acts
THE AMERICAN FLAG COMES SECOND
By Michelle Malkin * March 29, 2006 01:15 AM
You will not see this heart-stopping photo on the front page of the NY Times or on the lead story of the major news networks.
You should.

03/28 : Student protest in Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High.
(Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)
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Meanwhile: Mexico Cheers Passage of Immigration Bill
Like I said: Welcome to reconquista.
I predict this stunt will be the nail in the coffin of any guest-worker/amnesty plan on the table in Washington. The image of the American flag subsumed to another and turned upside down on American soil is already spreading on Internet forums and via e-mail. Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every representative in the state and federal government. If you choose to remain uninvolved do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus one.........
The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean something, however, hasn't even begun.

IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS,
PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !!!
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Old 05-04-2006   #2
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Re: Just got this in an email...

He has got some great points,

This is exactly what our own apathy has come to.......

Taking over the US without ever firing a shot?
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Old 05-04-2006   #3
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Re: Just got this in an email...

I am speechless
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Old 05-04-2006   #4
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Re: Just got this in an email...

I think it would be smarter to waive the American flag instead of the Mexico flag with ours upside down.

"Hey, I want to stay in America and be an American citizen, that's why I'm waiving the Mexico flag". What dumb asses.
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I'm not racist or anything but they should be more respectful than that, especially on US land. I can understand why they all want to come live in the US. We live like kings here compared to most of the world.
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Re: Just got this in an email...

yeah, holding the mexican flag probably isnt the smartest idea when you're trying to become U.S. citizens. I dont get why they do that? Ship 'em out!
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Stupid. How can anyone be on their side when they do stuff like that?
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Re: Just got this in an email...

Man, I fucking hate politics. Everyone seems to think they know everything about everything. Right or wrong, heres my two cents:

"IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !!!" WTF does that have to do with anything? This isnt talking about the war nor our support for them, its about immigration.

Do they really think the people at the schools are illegal immigrants? Thats the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard, no way in hell someone without US papers will be able to get into a school. We had a guy try. He came over illegally and made it all the way to Bemidji and got deported within like 2 weeks of getting here after trying to get a few jobs and not having a social security number or something.

Where I dont think border hopping is ok, they do dirty ass jobs for next to no pay. Now, whether its right or wrong its the truth. Would any of you pick shit out of a field for 12 hours a day for next to nothing? Hell no, nor would any of these "clean up america" radicals. Its helping them out and helping us out, so why does it matter? Again, not to condone illegal immigration, but who else will do it?

EDIT: I do agree with the guy above me, pulling dumb shit like that isnt a good way to get something changed.
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Re: Just got this in an email...

down here in AZ, its a problem. and they are way way worse than the mexicans up in MN. we have fresh over the fence mexicans! car and motorcycle theft rate here is insane.

as an example, my motorcycle insurance QUADRUPLED after i moved, and 3 days later my lock was cut and my bike was stolen.

i have nothing against immigrants, its the illegal ones i hate.

another scenario that happens regularily here is illegals get in car accidents with students (and of coures the illegals have no insurance). the police ship them back to their 3rd world country and YOU remain fucked out of however much it costs to fix your car.


and that whole argument about "mexicans do the work we won't do" is utter BULLSHIT. look into the history of our country, we have done it all. including shitty jobs.

last thought: Why would you want the citizens of a failed country in YOUR country? If they can't get their shit straight in their own town then what makes you think they'll improve our country in any way?
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Never said I did want them, and I didnt think about the theft. Absolutely get those ones out of here. Also, we didnt do all the shitty jobs, we had slaves to do them for quite a while. I didnt want to start a big arguement, just throwing my two cents in the jar.
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When I drove to San Diego last summer I came back through AZ, NM, TX, up to MN and the whole way through AZ and NM we got stopped every hour or 2 at checkpoints. I think there may have been something going on with boarder jumpers and shit and it made the way back take FUCKING FOREVER. We tried to get to TX the first night on the way home but couldn't make it since it got so damn late with all the stops. They weren't short either, sometimes, we'd have our vehicle look inspected and what not amd it took 30 mins one time having to uload 4 peoples luggage and repack the car we were in, which was my old modded out neon. And then when they asked us where we were from and going to they were really suspicious about us going to MN. They asked us "What's in MN?" even after looking at our IDs which say where were fucking from for christs sake. I just think it's completely fucked up how you get treated in those states with all the boarder insecurities in those states and it wastes everyones time tryin to get places.
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Americans will do shitty jobs. They just have to get paid a fair wage to do them. Imagine that.

I keep hearing this shitty-jobs-for-cheap argument. But what the fuck is wrong with having legal workers do the jobs for good pay?
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i hope they close that school down.
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Re: Just got this in an email...

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Do they really think the people at the schools are illegal immigrants? Thats the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard, no way in hell someone without US papers will be able to get into a school. We had a guy try. He came over illegally and made it all the way to Bemidji and got deported within like 2 weeks of getting here after trying to get a few jobs and not having a social security number or something.

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Appearently you havent been to california. Here we will give anyone an education, green card or not.
The fact that these people show such disrespect towards the country they are trying to get citizenship for is complete insanity. Fuck em, if they dont wanna live here then get the fuck out.
Think about it this way:
You bought a house and have lived in it for 20 some odd years, you bring in rommates but they pay rent and did the paperwork to get on the lease and do lots of work around the house.
Then one day someone just shows up on your couch. You dont know what hes doing there or how he got in, he doesnt pay rent, eats your food, sometimes steals your things. you cant get rid of him and you end up just getting used to the idea that he is there. but then one day you decide, hey this guy has lived here long enough, its time for him to go back to where he came from because he hasnt paid rent or even offered to get on the lease, but then once you tell him he has to go he then yells and says hes not gonna work or do anything around the house, then he pops a squat in your living room and takes a huge dump on your floor.
You then tell him "WTF are you doing?" and he replies with, "Youve never done shit for me. Im pissed because you dont ever treat me right"

I think thats about the best way i can explain this. its sad but true, these people need to Get the Fuck out if they are gonna shit on our living room floor.
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Hahaha...I like that example. I'd definitely be pissed. What I dont get is why are the illegals trying have a "say" about where they stand when they're not american citizens living in America. I'm fine with the legal ones also and its the illegals that are screwing us over.
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Thor, have you ever even been out of the midwest? I've lived in the south for about a total of 2 1/2 years. Illegal immigration is a problem. Exactly what Floppy said. I had 2 guys I knew, both get in accidents with illegals, and get fucked because they have no insurance. I hate when people act like they are politicians, but have no first hand experience.
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Them kids need their edumacation. Apparently, they don't know their geography yet.
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Yep, I've been in the south (mostly AZ) on like 7 different occasions for two weeks each (grandma and grandpa used to winter down there so we'd go visit) and I've never heard anything bad while I was down there, nor had I while I was up here in MN. Remember what I was saying in my first post, everyone thinking they know everything? I guess that goes for me too. Sorry guys, my bad.
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Americans will do shitty jobs. They just have to get paid a fair wage to do them. Imagine that.

I keep hearing this shitty-jobs-for-cheap argument. But what the fuck is wrong with having legal workers do the jobs for good pay?
Exactly.

There's not one job that an American would not do (unless they knew it would result in injury or death for sure) if it didn't include working for "slave wages". If we allow the illegals to keep coming in, all they are doing is diluting the work force and keeping pay wages down for the rest of us. How can you expect to get paid well when your employer knows he can replace your ass with somebody else for half the price?
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