View Poll Results: Where do I go from here? (now that all of the children have grown up...)
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Build the X
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No one wants a $60k evo with high monthly payments, get out now and buy a 9.
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09-23-2011
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#1741
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DL OG
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Plano, TX
Drives: Evo IX SE
Posts: 224
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Glad to hear you got the oil leak fixed. Awesome numbers! Can you post up a boost plot. Would also like to see an overlay of scheides vs your current.
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Originally Posted by tehehodi
Actually, i lied, hang around the drinking league if you want to party hard.
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09-23-2011
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#1742
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-23-2011
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#1743
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I posted my boost plot already.
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09-23-2011
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#1744
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
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Maybe, but doubtful. Shane said he needs another two hours with it. So prolly won't happen until Monday. I'll let ya know though.
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09-23-2011
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#1745
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by PlanoEvo
Glad to hear you got the oil leak fixed. Awesome numbers! Can you post up a boost plot. Would also like to see an overlay of scheides vs your current.
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Go back a page, they're both posted.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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09-23-2011
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#1746
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
To add to my overlay of our cars earlier:
My car peaks at 32psi, yours just barely touches 31.
So your car makes more torque down low with less boost and almost the same power midrange and up top with less boost! I'm impressed with your setup man--leave it and drive it!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-23-2011
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#1747
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
I'm impressed with the EF3 and EF4 so far! Maybe i should have tested the EF2...damn it
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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09-23-2011
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#1748
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
Posts: 7,150
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
This thing should be ready to rock for the cruise then eh?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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09-26-2011
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#1749
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Got the car back tonight! It scared me when I went WOT, a great sign
The open dump is pretty loud, lol, but its not too terrible imo, we will see if I get sick of it.
Here are the final graphs.
Yay!!!
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09-26-2011
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#1750
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
dayum...
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09-26-2011
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#1751
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moonshine power
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
nice power on lower boost.
Just glad to see it running again.
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09-26-2011
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#1752
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by TalonFiero
nice power on lower boost.
Just glad to see it running again.
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Thanks and yes I am glad it runs again as well, thats all I really want at this point, lol.
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09-26-2011
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#1753
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Good god, epic! Just curious, what's WGDC at through the upper midrange and way up top? Any more boost left in it? Seems low but then I remember you have that extra .2L to make more power at less boost with :P
Fukin sweet powerband, looks SO strong up top! My car peaks around 7000-7200 and falls off ~30whp by the time it gets to 8300rpm, yours is preeetty damn flat from 6800-8500! Insane!
Remind me, are you still on the stock IM/TB?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-27-2011
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#1754
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Also, what IDC are you peaking at?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-27-2011
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#1755
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
Good god, epic! Just curious, what's WGDC at through the upper midrange and way up top? Any more boost left in it? Seems low but then I remember you have that extra .2L to make more power at less boost with :P
Fukin sweet powerband, looks SO strong up top! My car peaks around 7000-7200 and falls off ~30whp by the time it gets to 8300rpm, yours is preeetty damn flat from 6800-8500! Insane!
Remind me, are you still on the stock IM/TB?
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I attached a log for you. It's one I took today on the way home from DB on a 3rd gear pull after filling up with gas.
We were not maxing it out, I didn't want to push it anymore than we already did. The actuator was supposed to be a 1.7 bar one (roughly 24psi) but only held 19psi tapering to 16psi on wastegate boost so I think with a stronger spring it would hold more up top.
Yes, I am on stock IM/TB. Those are really the only future upgrades I have for power aside from t3 kit which will happen if I ever get bored.
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09-27-2011
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#1756
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by scheides
Also, what IDC are you peaking at?
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Not sure on this one.
You have to enter scaling into evoscan to log this right? I have never logged IDC.
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09-27-2011
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#1757
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flips McGee
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Holy crap, just looked at your logs. Timing is super conservative....then again you have higher compression so I guess that could skew my perception of what is acceptable. Tune looks very nice though.
IDC peaks at 91.9% @ 8000rpm.
WGDC is not maxed, so you probably have a bit more left in it.
You need to wire your wideband into your ecu.
You need to rip this until next year, perfect DD setup. Log it periodically, have some fun with it!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-27-2011
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#1758
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Shane said yes it is conservative but he also said what you did, that with the higher compression this could be just "normal" for timing.
The log only goes out to 8000rpm on this pull and we tuned to 8800 and up there I think wgdc is maxed but I could be wrong.
Shane asked about the wideband already as well as he wants to see some transitional stuff on the road in between gears, he thinks I could be running a bit rich. I have my AEM wideband, I was planning to work on it this weekend and see if I can get it wired in.
Overall, I think the tune is a tad rich, tad low on boost and a little conservative on timing, basically exactly what I wanted
I am sure another 30whp could be had and quite a bit more torque with more boost and what not but for now I am happy.
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Originally Posted by scheides
Holy crap, just looked at your logs. Timing is super conservative....then again you have higher compression so I guess that could skew my perception of what is acceptable. Tune looks very nice though.
IDC peaks at 91.9% @ 8000rpm.
WGDC is not maxed, so you probably have a bit more left in it.
You need to wire your wideband into your ecu.
You need to rip this until next year, perfect DD setup. Log it periodically, have some fun with it!
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09-27-2011
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#1759
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
Looks good, Dave. I was up at DB yesterday when the final pulls were being done, sounds nice!
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09-27-2011
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#1760
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Looks good, Dave. I was up at DB yesterday when the final pulls were being done, sounds nice!
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Thanks bud!
On the dyno it just seemed loud and I thought sounded great, on the street the open dump seemed a little raspier and still loud.
I don't hate it by any means but it will take getting used to it.
It is only at WOT so its not so bad at all, but damn, its loud lol.
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