Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 159

**cmspaz** · 07-21-2014

Depends, I guess, since most other gaskets are "single use."

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Kracka

The orange/brown ones require an OEM gasket on either side of it to seal properly; I do not like this design as it is more prone to leaking. The white ones do not require a gasket as they have a slight amount of squish to them (these are what I've used and recommend). I know people will claim otherwise, but I consider these to be single-use only like most other types of gaskets.

I have the white one. It's the one MAP makes for our cars. I have had it since my fp black build. So its been reused several times.

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Originally Posted by cmspaz

Depends, I guess, since most other gaskets are "single use."

Yep, I am guessing I should've replaced this gasket I will get a new OEM one this week and put it on this weekend. I trust the OEM one to seal properly vs one of those I guess.

**Kracka** · 07-21-2014

Get a new white one, reusing it that many times is your problem. They work well. I had one on my IX and X.

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Get a new white one, reusing it that many times is your problem. They work well. I had one on my IX and X.

My buddy said those plastic ones can have sealing issues and said the OEM one is the safe bet.

Looks like MAP doesn't even make theirs anymore, at least its not on their site. And they only show the Boomba one which is 85 bucks.

http://www.maperformance.com/boomba-...shi-evo-x.html

Not sure what the hell all those bolts and that other piece are for pictured here...

Seems safter to go with this:

http://www.maperformance.com/oem-int...ion-evo-x.html

Is there a reason that it's not a good idea to do OEM?

**Kracka** · 07-21-2014

They're about $20, you just have to ask for one. Bill always knows what people are talking about when I refer them.

People say a lot of things, 99% of which have never actually touched the product...I use/recommend/trust things I've actually had good experiences with.

Your car so it's your call, but it sounds like you've had good luck with it thus-far, if anything, it went beyond expectations since you reused it multiple times! OEM is never a bad idea, it just leaves room for improvement on the table.

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Kracka

They're about $20, you just have to ask for one. Bill always knows what people are talking about when I refer them.

People say a lot of things, 99% of which have never actually touched the product...I use/recommend/trust things I've actually had good experiences with.

Your car so it's your call, but it sounds like you've had good luck with it thus-far, if anything, it went beyond expectations since you reused it multiple times! OEM is never a bad idea, it just leaves room for improvement on the table.

No I hear ya.

I just don't want to have to pull the intake mani apart again after I do it this week/weekend.

Especially since my buddy who is a mechanic for infiniti is helping and he recommended OEM. SO if I don't go OEM, he helps and it leaks still, he will kick me in the nuts lol.

I am fighting internally, as I don't want to leave power on the table but I just want it to work.

**Kracka** · 07-21-2014

Simple: See what's in-stock immediately available for wrenching this week

One side-note: Sometimes when manifolds get ported they slightly warp due to heat and the flange face isn't as true as it was from the factory; the white gasket allow for more squish than the OEM gasket does. Cobb had this issue with a ported IM (MAP Rev2) and the OEM gasket wouldn't seal it.

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Simple: See what's in-stock immediately available for wrenching this week

One side-note: Sometimes when manifolds get ported they slightly warp due to heat and the flange face isn't as true as it was from the factory; the white gasket allow for more squish than the OEM gasket does. Cobb had this issue with a ported IM (MAP Rev2) and the OEM gasket wouldn't seal it.

Well that was my thoughts as to why the leak is there, because I got a MAP rev3 since last time it was isntalled. So I assumed the white gasket I had was formed to the OEM manifold and after the porting, the surface changed slightly and it wouldn't seal.

If they have the white one in stock I will go for that I suppose. It's not the end of the world to do the IM twice I guess. And if it has more "squish" than OEM, that is probably a good thing.

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

Map doesn't make theirs anymore. But they sell this which I bought:

http://www.maperformance.com/gizzmo-...o-x-g6039.html

Bill said it was basically the same thing. Almost looks like this is what MAP maybe rebranded for theirs. Anyway, gasket and battery ordered (got the odyssey 680 instead of the 925 this time as its cheaper and lighter). My battery actually tested good at my buddies dealership but just didn't seem to want to start the car so not sure what gives. The car started fine when i left the charger on there though.

If this battery doesn't last I am going to put a normal one back in there or start checking my grounds as something has to be up with it.

**Kracka** · 07-21-2014

I had good luck with the STM battery kit I put in my car. Pretty nice for $150 shipped (battery, bracket, hardware, etc.).

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Kracka

I had good luck with the STM battery kit I put in my car. Pretty nice for $150 shipped (battery, bracket, hardware, etc.).

I have all the hardware for the PC680. I have the AMS battery kit, just need a new battery and the PC680 should work the same.

Thanks though for the recommend

A//// Guy · 07-21-2014

Why not test that battery in your other car or in some other application, if it checks out on a tester? Id do that before ordering another expensive battery.

simulatedwood · 07-21-2014

I will run nothing but these batteies: check out the site.. expensive but they out perform anything you can get, and last forever. http://shop.antigravitybatteries.com...ries-ytx12-20/

turbotalon1g · 07-21-2014

Order it up, that is badass!

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

That battery is too much Shawn, I would love to get it but I am tapped for car money. I just want to drive the damn thing. I went with the PC680 as they are relatively proven.

The guy who tested my other battery said its sadly very common that the tester shows it good but they still have to replace batteries to fix them. He saw it in action and agreed a new battery was in order, so I just ordered it as I just want to drive the car.

simulatedwood · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

That battery is too much Shawn, I would love to get it but I am tapped for car money. I just want to drive the damn thing. I went with the PC680 as they are relatively proven.

The guy who tested my other battery said its sadly very common that the tester shows it good but they still have to replace batteries to fix them. He saw it in action and agreed a new battery was in order, so I just ordered it as I just want to drive the car.

Ok.. I going to introduce some logic.. and it will blow you mind, is this your 3rd small battery @ 160 bucks a crack? Lets say you buy one anti gravity battery, you are still way ahead. You can get the smaller one @ $289. I Just went with the 600 Cranking amps, no this is not same old CCA which tends to be way overrated. But 600 cranking amps for 10 seconds or more which is insane.

turbotalon1g · 07-21-2014

I'm about to drop it on you bitches.
Walmart battery - $60-120 bam!!!

simulatedwood · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g

I'm about to drop it on you bitches.
Walmart battery - $60-120 bam!!!

I will see your walmart suggestion and offer him my good OEM battery for free.. Yes Murlo free..

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

Ok.. I going to introduce some logic.. and it will blow you mind, is this your 3rd small battery @ 160 bucks a crack? Lets say you buy one anti gravity battery, you are still way ahead. You can get the smaller one @ $289. I Just went with the 600 Cranking amps, no this is not same old CCA which tends to be way overrated. But 600 cranking amps for 10 seconds or more which is insane.

technically, yes this is my 3rd lol.

I know what you are saying but I think I cooked the other two myself, no one else has these issues. Actually this is my 4th

I had the original one that came with the AMS kit, that one died pretty quick sitting in my garage through winter. So I bought another which never actually died, fully, but shows the same symptoms of my current battery. I left that one on my trickle charger through winter in my basement, same as I did with my current battery and they worked but not great and had trouble starting so I bought my current problem one last spring after the car was struggling to start. So I am guessing the last two were worn down my my trickle charger not working right.

I know A LOT of evo guys that run this PC680 that never seem to have issues like I do, so I was just assuming improper storage and charging on my end here.

I was going to buy a lithium one but didn't want to shell out that much. But you are right if the cause of those batteries failing wasn't by me or my charger, then I am throwing money away. But the symptoms of the batteries and my process pointed towards me being the culprit aka user error.

If this one bites the dust I will sack up next year and buy a lithium one. But I just feel like it was my storage of the battery that killed it.

**Murlo26** · 07-21-2014

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood

I will see your walmart suggestion and offer him my good OEM battery for free.. Yes Murlo free..

LOL, if this one doesn't work, then I will come grab your OEM one

But the battery is already bought and on the way. If the new one has issues then it is something else causing it not battery related and I will dig into that and sell my other battery or one of them.

It seemed like it had a dead cell though so guessing a new battery will work better.