Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 93

**cmspaz** · 02-15-2012

12.6" VIII/IX. I'd have to test fit them on the lathe, first. Still willing to give it a shot.

**Kracka** · 02-17-2012

I just replaced my brakes last week with Stoptech Street pads and ATE Super Blue fluid. Skip the SS brake lines, they do nothing but cause problems (fitment, leaks, burting, etc.). I personally had a SS brake line burst on the highway and so did a good friend of mine.

No need to replace your rotors yet, but turning them can't hurt. I personally didn't touch my rotors though.

I HATE brake dust which is why I'll never touch aftermarket Ferodo pads (OEM pads are Ferodo and they dust like crazy, aftermarket Ferodos are even worse). They stop awesome though! I've personally had and liked the Stoptech Streets and RacingBrake ET500's in terms of performance, dust, noise, etc. I've also had Girodisc Junks...I mean Magics...and despised them like the devil due to their non-linear friction coefficient throughout the temp range. Some day I'd like to try the "new" Kevlar EBC Redstuffs...

**Murlo26** · 02-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Kracka

I just replaced my brakes last week with Stoptech Street pads and ATE Super Blue fluid. Skip the SS brake lines, they do nothing but cause problems (fitment, leaks, burting, etc.). I personally had a SS brake line burst on the highway and so did a good friend of mine.

No need to replace your rotors yet, but turning them can't hurt. I personally didn't touch my rotors though.

I HATE brake dust which is why I'll never touch aftermarket Ferodo pads (OEM pads are Ferodo and they dust like crazy, aftermarket Ferodos are even worse). They stop awesome though! I've personally had and liked the Stoptech Streets and RacingBrake ET500's in terms of performance, dust, noise, etc. I've also had Girodisc Junks...I mean Magics...and despised them like the devil due to their non-linear friction coefficient throughout the temp range. Some day I'd like to try the "new" Kevlar EBC Redstuffs...

Well I actually just ordered several things and was going to post here.

Ordered new OEM serpentine belt, ATE super blue fluid and Ferodo 2500's front/rear pads.

Dust doesn't bother me a ton as my wheel color hides it really well. I also don't drive mine every day so the dust won't build up too fast. I rode in Scheides' car when he had these pads and it stopped pretty damn good from what I remember so I figure they are a good choice. Need something to stop all my power.

I did skip the SS lines for now. I did see you replaced your pads Kracka and was going to ask what you did for your rotors. Maybe I will just leave mine, we will see. Seems easy enough to turn them.

I was also planning to add a RSB as it seems like the "best" cheap mod left I haven't done. I was leaning toward the Whiteline 27mm one but was curious about endlinks? Do I need them?

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 02-17-2012

We put the Girodisc magic pads on my wife's Evo 8 to try to get rid of squealing and it worked for a couple days and is now squealing worse than ever, we haven't run them at any track events, so I have no idea if they are any good for that, but I doubt it. We had the Stoptech pads on the car at the start of last year, they were an ok street pad, but didn't perform very well on the track. I have been less than happy with the Brembos on my wife's car and some of our customer cars who race with them.

**scheides** · 02-17-2012

Whiteline + stock endlinks, this should have been in round one of your mods sir :P

Cool on the brakes, should be a fine setup for ya! I know mine have been great for pure street use.

**Murlo26** · 02-17-2012

Well after I get some of the parts I have installed I will probably get the whiteline RSB. That sounds like a good bday present to myself in May. I'll wait until then I think.

Two more questions:

Is 1 can of super blue enough to do a brake flush? And does anyone have a good brake bleeder?

I am thinking about this one:

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/M...r-Bleeder.html

simulatedwood · 02-17-2012

1 can of super blue is good for 2 brake flushes. If you need a brake bleeder, I have mlomker's Motive power bleeder that works just awesome, I can loan to you for the job.

Shane,
As far as track pads go the Hawk HP+ pads worked good for tracks use, they didnt fade most of a 20 minute session on the x and are semi decent for street use. They are however the loudest pad you could ever use on the street. They were recommended by the frozen rotor guys (Team Tubby Butterman for chumpers) and so far I have been satisfied. The frozen rotor guys basically said going a more aggressive pad would be a track only use. So after the HP+ are done, the is x is getting a track only setup with Raybestos ST-43 pads next. Also as far as rotors go, very impressed with the wear on the frozen rotors, still like new after 2 track events, with very little grooving or cracking.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 02-17-2012

We have run track only pads on the car at the track. We have had a lot of brake judder issues on my wifes car after a couple sessions even with new rotors, new pads, trying different bed-in techniques, etc.

**Kracka** · 02-18-2012

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I was also planning to add a RSB as it seems like the "best" cheap mod left I haven't done. I was leaning toward the Whiteline 27mm one but was curious about endlinks? Do I need them?

Stock end-links are fine with the Whiteline and most others; Scheides, Rmondoh, myself, and many others still use them. The only guys that seem to break them are the ones running the ridiculous 32mm Hotchkis.

**Murlo26** · 02-22-2012

I bought the whiteline swaybar too now. It's too inexpensive to not have such a great mod (from what I hear anyway).

And Shawn, I will prolly take you up on that brake bleeder. Maybe I will pick it up when we screw around with my serpentine belt fix.

**cmspaz** · 02-25-2012

I decided to measure the brake lathe here at work today, and from the centerline of the shaft to the furthest the bits travel is 7 3/4". I'd say that would comfortably cut a 14" rotor.

**Murlo26** · 02-25-2012

I talked with my buddy who works at an Infiniti dealer (to see if he could do the rotors for me) and he spoke with a brembo rep and you aren't supposed to turn the brembo rotors.

He asked because on their cars you aren't supposed to either. So I am just going to do pads and fluid I think.

Thanks for checking though bud.

93gtpeater · 02-25-2012

If you dont turn them I would at less take some fine sand paper and rough them up a bit. Thats what I do works great.

**Murlo26** · 02-25-2012

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Originally Posted by 93gtpeater

If you dont turn them I would at less take some fine sand paper and rough them up a bit. Thats what I do works great.

That's what my buddy said to do, I was probably going to do it.

Thanks.

TkrPerformance · 02-25-2012

I turned the Evo brembos and the slotted dba's for the brembos up at orillys

**cmspaz** · 02-25-2012

Just because Brembo won't release specs for them and tells you to buy new ones (a brilliant business model, btw) doesn't mean you can't, it just means you shouldn't be stupid about it when you do. I wouldn't turn them more than once, and would refrain from turning them at all if highly abrasive metallic pads were used and will be used again.

**Murlo26** · 02-25-2012

Used stock pads before, this is my first brake change. Switching to Ferodos.

No idea what is best honestly. Kracka didn't do anything to his.

**Kracka** · 02-26-2012

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

Kracka didn't do anything to his.

Neither did Armando, no issues for either of us. The stock rotors on the WRX are on their 3rd set of brake pads and they've never been resurfaced or even sanded.

Speedfreak · 02-26-2012

In general, if the rotor isn't warped, I don't turn them ever. If they are groved from aggresive pads, great, the pad will wear to that shape and I have that much more contact area.

**Murlo26** · 03-03-2012

Just gathered everything I need to install soon! Who's in?