Fuck it, traded in the GTS for a Ralliart.

[Trogdor]

Ok so, I decided to utilize my 30 day trade in over at WB Mitsubishi. I'm trading in the GTS for a Ralliart and eating the higher monthly payments.

So, in my first post (http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30165) I had some questions about relatively inexpensive ways to increase HP and torque. The general consensus was that this wasn't going to shit for a GTS. Is this now different for the Ralliart?

[GsXtUrBo98]

Post up pics. Its cool that you decided to get a car that has a better platform, congrats!

[Murlo26]

Yes, much different now

Take it to get tuned and you will pick up quite a bit of power.

then after that you can start putting boltons on the car, exhaust first I'd say and then a testpipe and more tuning etc etc.

I guess first question, what kind of money do you have to spend?

edit: congrats on the pickup!

[Kracka]

Awesome! The RA is basically a baby Evo. Heck, toss some stock Evo parts on it, give it a tune, and it'll be pretty damn fun.

[Rmondoh]

Here's a comparison between a Ralliart with a full Evo X swap and my Evo X GSR.

Ralliart Mods (at time of dyno as best I can remember)
Stock Catback
Cobb HFC
Cobb Intake
Cobb Turbo Inlet Pipe
Cobb Downpipe
Cobb UICP
Cobb LICP
3 port
Evo X Exhaust Manifold
Evo X Intercooler
Evo X Turbo

Mods on my Evo X GSR:
Specialty-X Catback
Megan Testpipe
AMS Intake
Cobb Downpipe (ceramic coated)
AMS UICP
AMS LICP
GrimmSpeed 3port
Ported Evo X Exhaust Manifold (ceramic coated)
AMS Intercooler
Evo X Turbo
Ported Evo X Intake Manifold

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by Murlo26

Yes, much different now

I guess first question, what kind of money do you have to spend?

edit: congrats on the pickup!

I'm looking for small projects so that I can do them a little bit at a time as I save up the cash. So, I'm looking to spend between $300 and $1500 max on any one item or kit.

A friend of mine also mentioned to me that getting a controller to regulate the turbo's PSI is relatively cheap. What kind of PSI are stock parts going to be able to handle?

[Kracka]

The RA has a pretty small single-scroll turbo, so my advice would be to upgrade to a stock Evo X twin-scroll turbo setup which can be had for roughly $600-700 in nice condition. While you're at it, do a Evo X intercooler and pipe set too, this would probably cost you $200-250 for the complete set. Add in a 3-port boost control solenoid and the total comes in around $1000, get AEM's new RA intake for probably $300, plus a testpipe for $150, add in a tune for $300, and you're sitting at $1750 total (roughly). That would be a pretty solid mod list and will put down more power than a stock Evo X for under $2k in mods.

[scheides]

Hell yes! Yea just look for evoX parts and swap them on, those will be your best bang-for-your-buck mods.

A few suggestions?
-come to our fall dyno day (TBA) and get a baseline on it
-boost pill + testpipe first
-Bryan@GST has some baseline maps, if you need help flashing them, LMK
( http://forums.evolutionm.net/09-rall...t-basemap.html )

[Kracka]

Come on the cruise too, Oct 1-2.

[simulatedwood]

Congrates on the RA!

I know this is not the For sale forum but I have a intercooler, boost pill, upper IC pipe, and full exhaust from my stock evo x. PM me if you are interested.

Shawn

[Kracka]

...and I may have a stock X turbo available shortly.

[Shane@DBPerformance]

You can bolt the Evo X turbo on to the Ralliart, but it isn't as simple as just swapping the turbo, you need the complete Evo X turbo system to do the swap(turbo, exh manifold, o2 housing, inlet elbow, downpipe, oil/coolant lines, gaskets, Evo X intake).

Your best bet for boost control is to put an upgraded 3-port solenoid on it and get tuned. You don't want to just throw a manual boost controller on it and crank it up.

The Ralliart runs a different boost control setup than the Evo X, which isn't a bad thing, since the passive and reactive boost solenoid stuff that the X uses stock is kinda stupid.

The attached dyno sheet is a Ralliart on the stock turbo that I tuned on E85 cranking the hell out of the tiny turbo. The numbers are in shootout/dynojet mode though.

[scheides]

haha! What fueling mods were on that thing? You could almost do that on the stockers with an upgraded fuel pump behind it.... :P

[Shane@DBPerformance]

Probably 1000cc, stockers wouldn't quite make it that far on E85.

[Murlo26]

That's a decent looking graph for sure, nice powerband.

For bang for the buck it looks like a toss up between going evo x parts and pump gas vs. stock ralliart stuff and e85. Prolly close in price, I'd go evo x parts first, that way you can go E85 after for the next upgrade.

Plenty of us local X guys have stock X parts laying around.

[scheides]

Yip, I have my stock X turbo/manifold/o2 housing in my garage if you're interested, minus the lines and such.

[awd-drifter]

RA ftw. get some pictures up

[goodhart]

Sounds like you have a whole slew of X parts to choose from!

Congrats on the better car haha