01-23-2004
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formerly ecoli
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Location: On the dyno
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There definately was some buildup on the pistons just from looking through the spark plug holes with a flashlight.
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01-23-2004
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#22
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carbon buildup on the piston top leading to higher compression which the rings can't hold and there's excessive blowby.
what do the plugs look like and are they the correct heat range?
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01-23-2004
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#23
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aka Goodbye
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Hit it with some MCCC.
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01-23-2004
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#24
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mccc works great.....but that might only be a temporary solution
was this a problem before the mods?
what kind of mileage on the stock internals?
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01-24-2004
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#25
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Been there, done that.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Camden, S.C.
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Stock Bottom end (replaced at 71K miles ) now at around 112K. 99 Style Head installed recently now has around 28K miles on it.
I never had a logger before. And the last time I hit the dyno to do some tuning was back in 2001. (alot's changed since then, back then my motor only had 20Kish miles)
-brian
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1996 GST - sold
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Best 1/4 - 11.7 on 93oct
Best 1/4 MPH - 120mph
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01-24-2004
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#26
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R U DTF bro?
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlowWhite@Jan 23 2004, 08:55 AM
Tried 2 different compression Testers: (8-15 turns of the motor)
1st one)
-192 across all 4
2nd one)
-189-192 across all 4
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8-15 turns is a pretty big difference. Whenver I have done them I usually go about 5-6.
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I agree with Kracka.
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01-25-2004
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#27
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Sten Sniper
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Yeah. Over the course of 15 revolutions I would think that some fuel would probably start to build up in the cylinder. I would try 4-6 cranks and/or hold the gas pedal on the floor when you turn the motor over.
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01-25-2004
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#28
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R U DTF bro?
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Have you been pulling the MPI fuse when doing the compression tests?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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01-25-2004
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#30
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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when i did my test, i pulled the fuse and full throtle, only cranked 4 times and i was getting in the 160 range..
All of the instructions i read anywhere said only 4 cranks.. and you will now that by looking at the Compression tester, the gauge will jump each time.. 4 jumps and you are done. read, write, done.
-E
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01-25-2004
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#31
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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On a 2g pulling each injecter harness and the *triangle* harness for the coil pack. The coil pack harness is like right next to the intake manafoild on the right side. I have been up all night so some of this might not make sense.
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01-25-2004
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#32
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formerly ecoli
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We did 15 once to see if it would stabilize, we usually did it about 7 cranks with MPI fuse pulled, coil pack unplugged, and throttle open.
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01-25-2004
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#33
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Admin
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Sportsman's Paradise, LA.
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I found my compression readings that I took when I first got my car so I would have a base line to check against if I thought anything might go wrong.
HKS 264/264
Stock cam gears
Warm engine
Fuel injectors unplugged
Coils unplugged
WOT
5 compressions
1) 180
2) 180
3) 180
4) 185
I don't know why #4 was slightly higher, but it was.
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01-25-2004
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Has anyone checked the cam timing? Having them set to reduce overlap will increase compression. Advancing the intake cam will also increase compression.
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01-25-2004
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#35
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formerly ecoli
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His car also runs hot ALL the time. It is stable though, just too hot. I know that is hurting the power a bit. I wonder if there is something wrong with that head like a clogged cooling passage. Is this the same head that was on Nash's 2G that always wanted to run too hot?
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01-26-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by ecoli@Jan 25 2004, 11:00 PM
His car also runs hot ALL the time. It is stable though, just too hot. I know that is hurting the power a bit. I wonder if there is something wrong with that head like a clogged cooling passage. Is this the same head that was on Nash's 2G that always wanted to run too hot?
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Nope that wasn't the head on my 2G when it ran hot. I had the 1G head on it, but I just put a 180 thermostat in it and it helped keep it cooler.
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01-26-2004
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#37
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Been there, done that.
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I've been running the stock Thermostat. Which I thought was 180.
I've been battleing this temp issue eversince I swapped the parts to the GSX.
when the motor was in my GS-T I could be cruising at 140mph. And the temp would never move.
However in the GSX if I can barely cruise at 70mph for a prolonged period of time and you can watch the temps climb to around the 223 range.
It's like the car is working way to hard or something?
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1997 GSX - new ride
1997 GSX - dedicated track car
2004 R6 - sold
1992 GSX - sold
1996 GST - sold
1995 GSX - sold
Best 1/4 - 11.7 on 93oct
Best 1/4 MPH - 120mph
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01-26-2004
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#38
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R U DTF bro?
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Sounds like it is probably your GSX's radiator then.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
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01-26-2004
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#39
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Admin
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Stock 2G thermostats are 180 deg
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01-26-2004
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Been there, done that.
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I swapped the radiator out of my GS-T.
But regardless. if the temps don't stop fluctuating during the first month of spring. (ie: test it out again for 1 month) A fluidyne with new Fans will be order.
Any recommendations on Fan?
This set up will eventually need to fit around the FP3065 Set up. (shooting for Sept/Oct 2004)
-brian
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1997 GSX - new ride
1997 GSX - dedicated track car
2004 R6 - sold
1992 GSX - sold
1996 GST - sold
1995 GSX - sold
Best 1/4 - 11.7 on 93oct
Best 1/4 MPH - 120mph
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