My Cars Fucked Up Again.

[tpunx99GSX]

Well the gsx is going back to the shop today. On my way to an interview i was crusin down 35E and i started to hear a faint knock... by the time i reached 42 it had developed to a hard knock. i pulled over and opened the hood with the car running and still knocking and it sounded like it was right under the valve cover, like it was metal on metal. The knocking gets louder and faster as the RPMs rise. Im still boosting fine. I just had the turbo replaced, new timing belt, gaskets and the oil level is fine.
It is barely drivable and im not making very much power.
Any ideas?
Tom

[A//// Guy]

Timing belt skipped a tooth or many. Could be the tensioner that either was installed wrong or is dieing.

I wouldnt drive it or you will get piston hitting valves syndrome.

[JET]

Sounds like a serious internal problem. I wonder if the T belt skipped a tooth or 2? Damn Satan!

[Jakey]

What about one of the balancer shaft bearings going out? They knock like a bitch when one of the bearings goes. Then again if it was the balancer shaft bearings the knocking should be reduced as the RPMs rise.

[A//// Guy]

Bearing wouldnt make a knocking sound. Ive had a timing belt slip teeth on me. It definetly sounds like his problem. You start hearing the knocking (or logging it every time you step on the gas to get up to 0 vaccuum.)

It eventually get so bad that the teeth keep skipping and pistons hit the valves. Startup is the worst because of the sudden force on the TBelt.

If the balace shaft is off, you will definetly know as there will be ALOT of vibration.

[tpunx99GSX]

im thinking that it is the t-belt. but heres what i dont get. i just had the timing belt replaced less then 1K miles ago???? do you think faulty workmanship? it was dont at wayseta mitsu

[slowbubblecar]

If that is it, defenitly bad workmanship. Missing BS belts dont give too much more vibration. 92tsiawd84 was driving around with the bs belt snapped and it wasn't noticed until rick did the t belt. He had bad workmanship also because after 20K on the timing belt, there was a nice groove in it and the BS belt was snapped. BTW, the lack of power is caused by the auto tranny. Before getting my 2g, I looked at one not knowing if it was an auto of manual and it turned out to be an auto. I hit the gas and it fell flat on its face right away. I think it had a newer turbo also.

[A//// Guy]

The TBelt might not have gone bad, the tensioner may have lost some tension... who knows.

I meant that if the balance shaft belt is off in terms of the gear(is not lined up with the marks.)

[tpunx99GSX]

well wayzeta mitsu called saying it was something with the rods and bearings.

[AJ]

Of course it has nothing to do with their work, cause then they would have to pay for it.

[npaulseth]

Sounds exactly like what happened to my car. Maybe we can be timing belt freinds...if that's the problem :bounce: :fworld: :cheers:

[unreal808]

Originally posted by DSMStyle@Jan 21 2004, 07:03 PM
Of course it has nothing to do with their work, cause then they would have to pay for it.

One could ask to see the old parts, to make sure the work in real.

[A//// Guy]

Yea, Im positive from your description that it was the Tbelt, unless you got rod knock but I doubt that...

Ask them how the tension was on the belt.. Im sure they will lie but whatever...

If your pistons have dings on them from the valves its definetly a Tbelt job not rods or whatever they say.

If the pistons have no marks from anything then I dont know what happend.

[slowbubblecar]

BTW, in my above post, it was not Rick Shindley that screwed up the job. Just want to make that clear.

[CVD]

How much oil did you burn off when the turbo blew?

[AJ]

Originally posted by CVD@Jan 21 2004, 10:27 PM
How much oil did you burn off when the turbo blew?

ding ding ding!!!!! All of it! Fucker was dry. Tom Mitsu is fucked if you dont' give in. They either fucked up the T-Belt install or they are liable due to the reslut of oil loss from your turbo, which was a recent approved "covered under warrenty" problem for ya.

I have ran a car for a few min with no Oil before. Ran fine just like yours for 10-20 miles and then the knock set in. Louder, then Louder, then Louder, then BOOM mother fucker. Buick off to the Yard and bring on the Taurass! Ohh the High School Memories!

[niterydr]

I said 'rod knock' when you called.
Where are my points for calling it?
allan is right, mitsu is liable for covering it, they already warranteed coverage on the turbo, it is the techs job to check the parts in question, as well as the parts that are in the same system that failed. They should of put 2+2 to realize that when a motor/turbo has no oil the turbo dies as well as....
the motor.
Good luck, just make sure you show proper service records for oil changes and so forth.

[tpunx99GSX]

ok so me and the guys (aj, swanny, nash and jet) decided that by the description that the service writer gave me sounds more like crankwalk. so i guess the myth that autos dont crankwalk is false.
oh well new shortblock for me.

[Kracka]

2G's that crankwalk won't (shouldn't) even be able to start-up due to the CAS positioning.