View Poll Results: How much WHP will I make on Cobb's AWD Mustang dyno?
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<450
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11.11% |
450-475
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16.67% |
475-500
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33.33% |
500-525
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16.67% |
525-550
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16.67% |
>550
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03-14-2013
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#301
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R U DTF bro?
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Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
New flywheel and clutch are mounted...
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I agree with Kracka.
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03-14-2013
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#302
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Who has my man-card?
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Crystal MN
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Posts: 2,162
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Yay!
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03-24-2013
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#303
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Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Woohoo! Running and dyno-tuned, very productive weekend! A few minor issues this weekend but nothing serious (o2 sensor, dipstick, and LICP coupler). The tune is done though and she runs/drives/idles incredibly smooth. Calvin @ Cobb does want to do a check-up on the tune and an alignment before the cruise, after the engine gets a few more miles on it (only 115 miles when we dropped it off yesterday).
I'll let Andrew post his results and chart
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-24-2013
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#304
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Yes!! I want to see results i'm going to go search evom haha
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2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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03-25-2013
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#305
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
With Andrew's permission, here you go!
link to larger version: http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMAG0297.jpg
453whp/390wtq @ 27.7 psig
Keep in mind that this engine is still tight with only 115 miles on it when it was dropped off for tuning. We were battling boost leak and couplers popping off all day with a poor fitting LICP and by the end of the day the fuel pump and fuel were beginning to over-heat so we called it a day. Once the engine gets a few more miles on it to loosen up and a properly fitting LICP is installed it will be back on the dyno for a few final runs and adjustments (April 13th, the weekend before the cruise). I expect the end results to sit somewhere closer to the 470whp range once it's able to take a touch more boost and timing, and probably rev out a bit further. It is tuned on Tephra V7 with multiple fail-safes and 91-octane map-switching setup, along with gear based direct boost control. The EF4 has MAP's "25 psig" HP WGA, but I have it just barely pre-tensioned so WGA pressure sits around 17-19 psig, with his 91-octane "safe" map sitting in the low-20's. If a high knock count is ever observed boost will immediately drop to spring pressure. I do love that rock solid boost curve!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Last edited by Kracka; 03-25-2013 at 08:15 AM..
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03-25-2013
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#306
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flips McGee
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
So legit! Hella pump gas setup that's for sure. I'm glad all the v7 stuff is being fully utilized, I forgot about all of those little details tephra added.
This is a solid 420 on Shane's dyno. Hella legit.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-25-2013
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#307
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Nice fat powerband. LOVE IT!
Looking forward to seeing it in action on the MSSC
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03-25-2013
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#308
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
The powerband feels awesome, with the longer gearing it goes on forever!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-25-2013
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#309
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Kracka
The powerband feels awesome, with the longer gearing it goes on forever!
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Ahh that's right, he has the stock gearing with a 4.10 (4.11?) Final Drive?
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03-25-2013
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#310
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
I think its the HKS 4.11 if I remember right.
Great looking setup Andrew, can't wait to see it on the cruise!
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03-25-2013
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#311
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Ahh that's right, he has the stock gearing with a 4.10 (4.11?) Final Drive?
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Correct...
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I think its the HKS 4.11 if I remember right.
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...and correct!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-25-2013
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#312
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Bad ass! I like the boost by gear and failsafes too, that stuff is cool.
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03-25-2013
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chemist
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Iowa
Drives: RR Evo 8
Posts: 191
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
That boost curve is amazing! What do you think helped it out the most to get it to be so solid?
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03-25-2013
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#314
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Is it true boost by gear or just low gear/high gear boost like the X's have?
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03-25-2013
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#315
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by dsmolition
That boost curve is amazing! What do you think helped it out the most to get it to be so solid?
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Big turbo, good high pressure wastegate actuator, ECU control, and a Grimspeed 3-port BCS...and a competent tuner who knows how to make it all work well together.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Is it true boost by gear or just low gear/high gear boost like the X's have?
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True boost by gear, fully adjustable by RPM in all 5 forward gears.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-25-2013
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#316
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DL OG
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Plano, TX
Drives: Evo IX SE
Posts: 224
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Thanks everyone for the support its been an epic journey!
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03-26-2013
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#317
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Damn!! I made that on E85 haha. Are you planning to do an E85 tune after a few more miles?
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2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
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03-27-2013
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#318
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
He hasn't had the greatest luck with E85 in the past. He has mentioned trying out race gas eventually though.
Safety, reliability, and longevity is the name of the game with this build.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-27-2013
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#319
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flips McGee
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by evotuner
Damn!! I made that on E85 haha. Are you planning to do an E85 tune after a few more miles?
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Yea but he has an ef4 to your 2.5, bigger cams, and a stroker motor . It all adds up!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-27-2013
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#320
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
I consider e85 to be plenty safe, however I guess that could be taken with a grain of salt with the luck I have.
I saw toss in some ms109 for when you wanna go fast if you want consistency.
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