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Old 06-13-2013   #1
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Re: beaterX project thread

Haha you got more miles on it then I do. Mines still sitting on jack stands in the drive way. I'm driving the 100 miles tomorrow though then dropping the oil and heading up to park rapids for part of my 1k break in.

Hope you have it done for pg.
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Old 06-14-2013   #2
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Fine I'll trade the BMW
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Old 06-16-2013   #3
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Bombed around the city thursday/friday/saturday running errands, taking the wife out for fun, and visiting Shawn C in Hastings (helped him swap on a new non-stretch timing chain on his X) to click the new motor's odometer over 500 miles. Went to about 550 miles actually, vacuum pulls and such as much as I could.

Car drives really really nice and today I gave it some final love before next weekend:
-fresh rear diff fluid
-girodisc rear s/s brake pads
-ATE Super Blue brake fluid, fully bled system (thanks for pumping that brake pedal spazzy!)
-AMSoil 10w40
-yanked valve cover, everything looks peachy! Bolts are tight and clearances are in spec
-fixed ripped-out 3-port BCS harness (oops my bad--during disassembly )
-fresh OEM spark plugs gapped to .018"
-full tank of E85
-boost!

Started her off easy ~25psi and the car feels great. More boost this week, keep watching for leaks, and few more little things before heading to BIR!



Lots of clunking coming from the front, I'm going to order new strut mounts/hats as it is getting really annoying.
Also I have a loose endlink on the rear sway bar. It's not terrible, but might be causing a clunk here or there. Just annoying because I the bolt is basically frozen on the endlink and doesn't want to budge...might be sawzall time
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Old 06-16-2013   #4
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After looking at logs, realized BCS was plugged into the wrong plug--oops! Corrected it for a flatter boost curve going forward
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Old 06-17-2013   #5
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Thamks Scheides for your help on Saturday. The car is mostly back together finishing up assembly tonight. You car sounded so good when you pulled up, gotta love a fresh rebuild!
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Old 06-19-2013   #6
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Any updated charts for viewing pleasure? It looked like you are ripping at 32psi now?
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Old 06-19-2013   #7
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No real charts, decided to save it for this weekend. Car is making about 550 whp @32-tapering to 30 according to Virtual dyno which is identical to what it was making last fall before making 599@MAP. So, numbers are with a grain of salt, if I can just have fun with it this weekend ill be happy! Car just revs and revs, power is fantastic above 7500rpm.
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Old 06-30-2013   #8
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BeaterX rages on! Over 1000 miles on the new shortblock now and going strong. Like I said I changed out the dino oil at 550 miles for AmsOil 10w40 and she has yet to burn a drop of oil. The first 700 miles I'd say that's no feat but it really was---even normal driving with limited boost before the car would eat a quart of oil every 200 miles or so, but the 750-775 mile range on this car I really put her to the test!

I made the trip up to BIR for MAP PG13.1 and did my best to flog the living shyte out of this thing for a few days. No big track time but I think I made about 10 drag passes, 6 hot autoX runs, and lots of boost on the way up and around there and all the way back.

Saturday I got up early and was through tech by 8:30, set tire pressure to 20psi and my first few drag runs I'd bog every launch running mid 12's at 120mph. Finally I slipped the clutch enough to get a half-way decent launch (still only a 1.8s 60') and ran a 12.0@121.x and then a 11.9@121.9mph. These times *seem* decent until I look back at the 11.6@124.xmph I ran with the BBX (smaller turbo) 2 years ago.

Qualifying run for eliminations on Sunday:


Qualifying pass for Stock Appearing (remember full interior, street trim, big pig of an evoX):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smeBglidZmw&hd=1

So I started digging into logs at the track and the damn car would only run maybe 27psi on the way down the track. 1st gear I can understand as there's hardly any time in it, 2nd I would hope for 30, and 3rd/4th gear should be 31+ the whole way letting the ef4 really shine...no such luck.

I tore the car apart at the track and found the WGA loose, zero pre-tension. Great, more wastegate problems!?! I was pretty pissed and even talked to Chris Carey about it, but then guess what--I put pretension back on it and made a few more passes day 2.

Went and made a few pulls and she was running 33psi no problem now! So I headed back to racing...first run on day2 was pretty clean, I won and that launched me straight into semi-finals. I was up against Chris/evotuner and knew I had my work cut out for me...we both bogged it off the line (totally my fault in my car, this is what happens when I'm rushed at the starting line...newb time showing right here!) and then it was all down to the cars...his ef2.5 spooled first and he got a few cars jump, my ef4 spooled and launched me forward...I grab 2nd and catch him a little more, 3rd gear I'm walking up to him and 4th gear I've crawled back up to 1/2 car behind but not enough! He wins and goes onto win the class.

Sigh, as bad as I wanted it, it was totally my fault and had I made a clean pass I would have had a chance in the finals. Just like last year all over again, blah. So I dug into the logs afterwards and sure enough the car was still low on boost. BAH! I packed up and drove all the way home, car felt great on the street...I don't understand.

Upon returning to Minneapolis I did some street logging to try and begin to figure out what is happening and so far i'm a bit surprised at the results.

Here's NLTS from 2nd to 3rd gear. Green is from Sunday at BIR and red is from the street. You can clearly see the car is not running nearly enough boost to 'go fast':


Next, here's an overlay same as above but with my 3rd gear full pull testing just before racing on Sunday in blue. You can see grabbing 3rd on the street the turbo spools quickly and goes right up to where the full pulls are, this is what I'd hope would happen on the track (but is not):



Lastly, here's same data as above but in orange is grabbing 4th gear at the track (NLTS from 3rd):


This gear seems fine right? But obviously being down on boost in 2nd/3rd is what really kills my times at the track. On the street the car really feels like a low 11-second car but my crap driving (poor launches and slow shifts) really hurt the real-world results. Sigh, this is my life


So I ripped the car on the autoX course for several laps and had a freaking blast there too...I was able to launch consistently (big burnouts mostly but showboating counteracts every cone hit right?! ), the car felt decent, but I hadn't tweaked the WGA yet so it was a bit on the laggy side still.

A mediocre run, just like all of mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFnkJeBxhuQ&hd=1

So, the saga continues! I have some strut tower mounts on order (spherical bearings on mine are shot I think) and a new rear sway link (one is loose), and she'll basically be back to where she belongs--the DD grind!

For now she will stay where she belongs: on the street, having fun!
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Old 07-02-2013   #9
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What mounts and links did you order?
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Nothing yet, budgetary constraints and other projects taking precedence! Priced out OEM stuff last night and it's about $67 per mount and $61 for the endlink.
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Old 07-02-2013   #11
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Great read man. Your beater is really getting a beating and it seems like it's loving it 11s is definitely not bad, especially with that trap speed
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That's not too bad! People complain about the "weak" stock rear end-links on the X, but mine are holding up fine and I seem to hear of more issues with noisy aftermarket links.
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Nice write up. I watched a lot of the Auto X runs and I'm finally ready to give it a try! Next proving grounds 13.2! Just need to figure out how to bring 2 cars!
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Nice write up. I watched a lot of the Auto X runs and I'm finally ready to give it a try! Next proving grounds 13.2! Just need to figure out how to bring 2 cars!
I bet your fp red evo would be fun in auto x
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Old 10-04-2013   #15
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Old 01-06-2014   #16
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Just been ripping around in this thing here and there. Last week, on New Year's Eve, my brother was in town so I let him borrow the truck and I took the evo. NBD, just another day. I got a call from a friend and his wife was stranded in south Minneapolis and I had borrowed his VW/Audi cable...I happened to have it in my car and was way closer than him so I hauled ass over there since it was like -11°F out.

I parked on a corner and after I sat down in her car to see what was happening, a small horror unfolded behind me.





This bus was turning the corner and totally clipped beaterX.



You can see the scrap marks along the whole back half of the rear section of the double-length bus....unreal.


Quarter panel is gouged pretty good, bumper cover is fucked.....yea. Dealing with Metro Transit is seriously a PITA. I think I will zip-tie stitch the bumper section back together for now and keep driving it.

2013. Not my favorite year.
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Yeah, that sucks. Hopefully they make it all right.
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this is a fun read
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Scheides, your insurance should work with theirs to fix it. You shouldnt have to pay for anything.
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