08-31-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: Evo X upgrades
^Once properly setup that's the idea! Load-based systems work, but they are error prone and thus inconsistent. The biggest saving grace on the X is that it has a low gear range and high gear range have separate base wasgtegate duty cycle (WGDC) tables, which in helps a LOT in the real world.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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08-31-2010
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immune from paybans
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Gotcha, now it makes more sense.
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08-31-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Sweet, now you will have some MAF scalings for my car
Let us know how the injectors work out 
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08-31-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Updates?? Are you at work still Lomker or at DB for the tune...if I get no answer I assume you are at DB 
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08-31-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Updates?? Are you at work still Lomker or at DB for the tune...if I get no answer I assume you are at DB 
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My Dad helped me drop it off last night. I want to save my vacation days for car events.
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08-31-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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My Dad helped me drop it off last night. I want to save my vacation days for car events.
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Fair enough, you picking it up later then I assume?
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08-31-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Fair enough, you picking it up later then I assume?
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If it is done today then I'll get it over lunch tomorrow. I want to install the APR splitter next weekend, otherwise I don't care much.
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08-31-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
My fueling problems continue. 20psi drop in pressure at 7k rpms. Shane is going to check the voltage to the Bosch and I suppose the inline fuel filter should be checked.
The Mitsu gods don't love me.
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08-31-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Geez...why do they hate you so???? Did you anger them? Are you sure you aren't running out of pump, no idea how much that one is supposed to flow.
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08-31-2010
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E85=Win
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
Geez...why do they hate you so???? Did you anger them? Are you sure you aren't running out of pump, no idea how much that one is supposed to flow.
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If he is running out of pump with 3 fuel pumps total, then i would just say fuck it and reutrn to stock 
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08-31-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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i would just say fuck it and reutrn to stock 
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If I wasn't so deep into this car it'd be getting parted out next week. I'll wait to hear from Shane about what voltages the pump was getting since that'll dictate where to go from here.
I may just have to live with this power level until next year. I could save over the Winter for a fuel cell and just take another step toward hard core.
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09-01-2010
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by GG_9_SE
If he is running out of pump with 3 fuel pumps total, then i would just say fuck it and reutrn to stock 
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Only 1 of the pumps actually does anything motor fueling wise.
I swapped fuel pump relays around multiple times with no change.
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08-31-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Evo X upgrades
DO it.
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09-01-2010
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Evo X upgrades
Have you replaced the stock black fuel pump relay with an updated blue one?
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I agree with Kracka.
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09-01-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Evo X upgrades
He has the green one, at least he did, maybe he got the blue ones now like I did though 
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09-01-2010
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Evo X upgrades
One local down here had a green fail too.
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I agree with Kracka.
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09-01-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
I had the green relays and then swapped them all for blue. Nothing is that simple for me.
Full Blown left the second in-tank pump in there but it doesn't need to be with this setup.
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09-01-2010
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Re: Evo X upgrades
obviously i dont know, but what about a 255 feeding a 044 inline or 255 inline?
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09-01-2010
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
obviously i dont know, but what about a 255 feeding a 044 inline or 255 inline?
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Pretty sure he has two 255's feeding one 044. Right?
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09-01-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
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Re: Evo X upgrades
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
obviously i dont know, but what about a 255 feeding a 044 inline or 255 inline?
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That's basically what I have. Dual 255's filling a surge tank and the motor being fed by the Bosch 044. The first 255 is always on, the second comes on under boost (Hobbs), and the Bosch runs off of the car's relay. The Bosch would over-run the stock fpr if it was run always-on.
Technically only one of the in-tanks should be needed to fill the surge tank but it was installed so I just left it there.
I don't have the funds to do very much right now. I have an afpr that needs a fitting or two for installation. I would be willing to try a BAP on the Bosch if that had any chance of helping.
The problem is that if the pump isn't getting fuel then making it run faster or doing the afpr won't fix it.
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