05-12-2013
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Why the Accessport?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-12-2013
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#102
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
Drives: '03 325i, '98 Ranger '03 Duramax
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Why the Accessport?
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I'll be going speed density and the AP's program is much better suited for this rather than RomRaider.
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05-14-2013
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#103
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by LingLing
I'll be going speed density and the AP's program is much better suited for this rather than RomRaider.
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and it makes it easy to switch between pump tune and e85 tune without needing a laptop =)
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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05-15-2013
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#104
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: Project Slowbaru
I understand the speed density part, but the map switching part is the lamest excuse ever to blow 600 bucks on an AP when you can do it for like $6 yourself, or free by using the tps map switch.
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-15-2013
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#105
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by goodhart
I understand the speed density part, but the map switching part is the lamest excuse ever to blow 600 bucks on an AP when you can do it for like $6 yourself, or free by using the tps map switch.
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Originally I was planning on using a merged Legacy harness, the stock WRX MAF and do an opensource tune. But now, since the car is running 100% WRX wiring I want to take advantage of the better EMS options.
Other than Opensource and AP there really aren't any other reasonably priced programs. Haltech Pro is right around $1,900 and I feel is WAY overkill. I'll have the ability to make all the power I want on the AP and for the price, I can't justify using anything else.
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05-15-2013
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#106
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Really no need to use anything else if you're using the WRX ECU. People have been making huge power for years using opensource.
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-15-2013
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#107
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Really no need to use anything else if you're using the WRX ECU. People have been making huge power for years using opensource.
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This is true, BUT.
Shane has never done SD with opensource on a Subaru. And unlike AP, OS doesn't feature live data logging, which makes Shane's life harder (Remember, he is my boss). He is more familiar tuning SD with an Accessport, and since he'll be tuning my car it makes sense for me to run it.
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05-15-2013
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#108
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
Posts: 2,048
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Re: Project Slowbaru
What??? You're not going to nuke&fuji for a tune!?!? Lol
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05-15-2013
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#109
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Sales Guy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Rogers, MN
Drives: like it's winter
Posts: 35
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by 4seasons69
What??? You're not going to nuke&fuji for a tune!?!? Lol
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I've had people tell me to get tuned by them, even while wearing my DB shirt. It's like, uhhhh really guy? Look at what my shirt says.
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05-15-2013
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#110
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Circle Pines
Drives: 1992 talon tsi 1995 corolla
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Haha! Making good progress! It will be nice to see this thing up and running!
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05-15-2013
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#111
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Nuke is a good shit, but no reason to go anywhere than Shane since you work for him. haha
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-15-2013
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#112
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Sales Guy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Rogers, MN
Drives: like it's winter
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by 4seasons69
Haha! Making good progress! It will be nice to see this thing up and running!
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Thanks dude!
I'm REALLY getting the itch to finish this thing! Once I get my heads back at least I can get the engine assembled and all the engine wiring hooked up.
I found an amazing deal on a full WRX 5-Speed swap, but I should be able to get it all swapped over with a full day of work.
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05-15-2013
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#113
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formerly ecoli
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: On the dyno
Posts: 4,892
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by LingLing
This is true, BUT.
Shane has never done SD with opensource on a Subaru. And unlike AP, OS doesn't feature live data logging, which makes Shane's life harder (Remember, he is my boss). He is more familiar tuning SD with an Accessport, and since he'll be tuning my car it makes sense for me to run it.
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I would tune yours with opensource on SD.
Most of our more modified Subaru customers have no trouble affording an Accessport and would rather have a quick and easy way to read codes and switch tunes instead of dealing with the opensource stuff. I prefer the Accessport since it offers realtime tuning and it's all contained in 1 program. When I tune opensource on the Subarus, I use 4-5 programs and every change requires turning the car off and doing a reflash, which can make SD tuning take a while. It's probably 50/50 for opensource versus Acessport tuning on the Subaru's I do, versus 95% opensource on the Evos. It's funny how few people use opensource on the DSMs. But DSMLink is very good and it's SD implementation is extremely good (better than any opensource and better than the SD on the AEM EMS), except it's VERY slow to update.
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05-25-2013
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#114
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
Drives: '03 325i, '98 Ranger '03 Duramax
Posts: 1,374
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Do you think there will be a difference in the quality of driveability between opensource and AP with the 2000cc injectors I'm planning on using?
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05-26-2013
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#115
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
Drives: '03 325i, '98 Ranger '03 Duramax
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Re: Project Slowbaru
This morning I picked up a WRX transmission, driveshaft, rear end and subframe assembly from Andy at Grimmspeed. I can now convert my clutch to hydraulic, make use of the entire WRX pedal box, and can use any clutch and short shifter for a 5-speed WRX.
I'm unsure of what driveshaft I'll have to use, but I'll be dropping that tomorrow.
I haven't taken a look at the rear until now. It's not too bad, but the rust makes it look like shit. Once I get it taken apart, I'll go through, sand out as much rust as possible and paint it black.
I also plan to disassemble the WRX subframe, replace all the hardware, and clean up the rusty parts as well. [I want to get rid of those stupid plastic end links too.]
Decided to get the front mount installed as well. The existing bumper beam holes almost lined up. I could have probably made it work, but one of the bolts would have been crooked. Wasn't really feeling that.
Before
Holes drilled, checked for alignment.
Installed with fresh hardware
Done!
Here's a shot from inside the engine bay.
Lines up nicely with the bumper cover support
And one more.

I'm really happy how it turned out. I should have plenty of clearance for piping, and I got it pretty much dead center without having to modify the intercooler bracket at all.
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05-26-2013
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#116
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
Drives: '03 325i, '98 Ranger '03 Duramax
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Re: Project Slowbaru
Bumper trimmed and half installed

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05-26-2013
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#117
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
Drives: myself crazy
Posts: 822
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Re: Project Slowbaru
the clutch i sold you will not work with a wrx trans. wrx tranny's use pull type clutch just a heads up incase you were still planning on using it
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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05-26-2013
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#118
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90
the clutch i sold you will not work with a wrx trans. wrx tranny's use pull type clutch just a heads up incase you were still planning on using it
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I'll be getting a new clutch for it. I do have a few good used ones, but they won't hold since they're the "Stage 0" Exedy's.
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05-26-2013
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#119
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2stepadepaaadepaaadep
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: bloomington, Mn
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Re: Project Slowbaru
you would be surprised i ran that forster tranny and the clutch i sold you for a while on my 20g with corn
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Originally Posted by 311evo
I put more into my car then what its worth, did it for my own enjoyment and that was all.
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^^thats what modding is about.. your own enjoyment
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05-26-2013
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#120
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AznKraut
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Stillwater
Drives: '03 325i, '98 Ranger '03 Duramax
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Re: Project Slowbaru
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Originally Posted by 19TsiAwd90
you would be surprised i ran that forster tranny and the clutch i sold you for a while on my 20g with corn
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Not bad!
I'll probably just do a sprung 4 or 6 puck.
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