03-06-2013
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#101
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: From ashes
Yeah that curve wants to keep going, rev that bish to 9k!
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03-06-2013
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#102
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Blaine
Drives: people crazy
Posts: 985
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Re: From ashes
That EF3 is supposed to be good for 650. BAP would be the next step. But not sure that I'll end up getting around to that for a while. I'm quite happy with where its at.
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03-06-2013
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#103
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: From ashes
550 bobby not 650
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2010 Nissan GTR - E85 #RonnieTuned
2004 AS Evo VIII - MAP 2.3/FP Green E85 480/450 @30psi #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - Stock Motor/Turbo/E85 388/404 #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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03-06-2013
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#104
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: MN
Drives: 2008 Evo GSR
Posts: 77
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Re: From ashes
Do the return line siphon drill mod before you put a BAP on there (see my post on evomn). Your W400 should already be flowing as much as my dw65c with BAP does I would think.
But great numbers anyway!
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2008 GSR SSS WW
RS motors built
454/388 mustang dyno on winter E70
ERL sleeved block, MAP rods, Wiseco pistons, MAP EF3, Exedy Twin HD
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03-06-2013
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#105
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flips McGee
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Re: From ashes
Oh, I missed that you went with a W400 already. I am shocked that it is out of fuel. Is it the e85 version? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge at all? Its possible your base fuel pressure is off the map and severely limiting the flow of the pump.
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03-06-2013
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#106
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Blaine
Drives: people crazy
Posts: 985
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Re: From ashes
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Originally Posted by timschot
Do the return line siphon drill mod before you put a BAP on there (see my post on evomn). Your W400 should already be flowing as much as my dw65c with BAP does I would think.
But great numbers anyway!
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Yeah, I saw the link. Going to ask Ron about that. Thanks Tim.
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Originally Posted by scheides
Oh, I missed that you went with a W400 already. I am shocked that it is out of fuel. Is it the e85 version?
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Yup
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Originally Posted by scheides
Do you have a fuel pressure gauge at all? Its possible your base fuel pressure is off the map and severely limiting the flow of the pump.
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I have no idea what that even means. But no, I don't have a pressure gauge.
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03-06-2013
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#107
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flips McGee
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Re: From ashes
Study up on how fuel pumps work. The higher the pressure they are pumping against, the less overall they will flow. Restrictions in the fuel system can lead to this.
Go back in my project thread about a year and you'll see all of my W400 shenanigans including fuel rail and siphon drilling. I actually bent my stock FPR to reduce base fuel pressure while installing a boomba fuel rail. Lots of fuel capacity on my setup now
Drilling the siphon is pretty easy, it takes about 20 minutes to get the fuel pump out, drill it, and get it back in....but having a gauge is pretty key so you know what's actually happening instead of guessing 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-06-2013
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#108
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Blaine
Drives: people crazy
Posts: 985
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Re: From ashes
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Originally Posted by scheides
Study up on how fuel pumps work. The higher the pressure they are pumping against, the less overall they will flow. Restrictions in the fuel system can lead to this.
Go back in my project thread about a year and you'll see all of my W400 shenanigans including fuel rail and siphon drilling. I actually bent my stock FPR to reduce base fuel pressure while installing a boomba fuel rail. Lots of fuel capacity on my setup now
Drilling the siphon is pretty easy, it takes about 20 minutes to get the fuel pump out, drill it, and get it back in....but having a gauge is pretty key so you know what's actually happening instead of guessing 
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I'll look in to it out of curiosity. But honestly, I'm not looking to make any more power for a long time. If I could squeeze a couple more out of this 20 minutes worth of work, it's probably worth it. But I'm very happy with where its at right now 
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03-06-2013
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#109
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: MN
Drives: 2008 Evo GSR
Posts: 77
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Re: From ashes
Keep in mind, with super high pressure, you can pretty easily pop the return line off the nipple at the tank. Happened to me twice before I did the drill mod. Hasn't happened since. I was reluctant to just put a tighter clamp on, because I'd rather have it pop off there than in the engine bay.
I would do what Scheides said.. put a fuel pressure gauge on there (or have Ron do it) and if it's crazy high, do the drill mod and see if it helps much. It will definitely help, but it might not be enough with the w400's flow at idle.
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2008 GSR SSS WW
RS motors built
454/388 mustang dyno on winter E70
ERL sleeved block, MAP rods, Wiseco pistons, MAP EF3, Exedy Twin HD
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03-06-2013
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#110
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: From ashes
fpr and drill that shit out bobby, better safe than sorry. Welcome to the world of modding haha
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2010 Nissan GTR - E85 #RonnieTuned
2004 AS Evo VIII - MAP 2.3/FP Green E85 480/450 @30psi #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - Stock Motor/Turbo/E85 388/404 #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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03-07-2013
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#111
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Blaine
Drives: people crazy
Posts: 985
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Re: From ashes
Thanks Tim, ill keep that in mind!
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08-07-2013
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#112
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Blaine
Drives: people crazy
Posts: 985
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Re: From ashes
Well, here's a bummer update.
About 2 months ago now I took the car down to Ron's to have said ignition problem looked at, and it turns out that noise that we all thought was piston slap, was something more severe. So MAP has had the car down to short block for a while now. Cylinder #3 was fuel washed. The injectors have been sent to ID for inspection. They called me this morning and said that nothing is unusual that would indicate the injectors were the problem. One was flowing a little low, but still within Bosche's standards. FML
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08-07-2013
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#113
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N17r0U$ br4D
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Re: From ashes
That sucks to hear  What are you going to do with it now?
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08-07-2013
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#114
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: From ashes
Ouch. Who built the motor?
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08-07-2013
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#115
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Minnesota
Drives: DSM
Posts: 319
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Re: From ashes
So whats wrong with the motor?
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08-07-2013
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#116
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Pewp Champion
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Blaine
Drives: Teh Bean
Posts: 12,309
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Re: From ashes
So what was discovered regarding the noise, spun bearing?
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08-07-2013
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#117
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
Posts: 20,620
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Re: From ashes
Yikes...
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08-07-2013
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#118
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lino Lakes
Drives: 17 Honda Accord
Posts: 4,041
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Re: From ashes
Hmmm, this sucks 
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08-07-2013
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#119
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Grand Rapids
Drives: 98 gsx
Posts: 813
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Re: From ashes
yes it does suck. I too want to know what a washed cylinder would do
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08-08-2013
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#120
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: stillwater
Drives: cbr 1000rr repsol
Posts: 1,451
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Re: From ashes
A washed cylinder would be a cylinder with no/little compression. A washed cylinder is shiny and has no cross hatchings.
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