05-16-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by Clyne
My old ones were definitely on DIE DIE mode. Blue smoke all the time haha... I always gotta gawk when I see a 3S in town now. I miss my VR4.
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Yeah I need valve stem seals, but 155,000 miles on the motor will do that. This winter, assuming everything holds together fine, will be that update.
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My street car runs low 11's and my race car's personal best is a mid 11....
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05-16-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
Drives: '91 Automagic
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
bring that die setting so we can see new turbos and 10s!
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05-16-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
bring that die setting so we can see new turbos and 10s!
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Doubt it. We'll see how tweaking goes with Ryan tonight on real E-85. Then dial in the 2-step and NLTS setup and its as good as its going to get by the track date. I may rent a hour of dyno time to just validate a few things prior to the event if the virtual dyno numbers are close to the record. Problem is the car is still very heavy and will be as it will retain creature comforts, over time it will lighten up, but I don't foresee it dropping below 3500lbs. Sub 12.5=happy. Sub 11.99=goal achieved.
Then I'll start to think about cam gears and larger turbo's. Problem is I can't decide if I want to start with a mild upgrade, like 13t's (can get into a low mileage set ready to bolt on for $1000ish) or HT12 wheels with clipped turbines (rebuilt for $900, with bolt-on), or save the $2200+ for DR650's that have been known to put down 500awhp on pump....
Maybe I'll just throw nitrous at it.
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Project took a step sideways last night. With 155,800 miles on the motor, it spun a bearing. We heard a slight clank after a pull to where power was dropped down, thought it may have been the TOB being a little loose as tension on the slave cylinder was weak, and then did another quick pull to check. Well that pull resulted in a smoke screen, hole in the oil pan, and probably the need for a 4-bolt upgrade.
With this amount of miles, I am not disappointed, just a forced upgrade to a 4 bolt motor. Still plan on going to the proving grounds to support John LaCroix's Galant, and hopefully will hit the track with this car end of season.
Plus side is the car was making 368hp@4300rpm and 480tq!
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Ouch that sucks! So much for keeping it low budget. :/ At least your labor is free, still a bummer not to have it running for the summer.
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by A//// Guy
Ouch that sucks! So much for keeping it low budget. :/ At least your labor is free, still a bummer not to have it running for the summer.
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I agree. It was in the plan, but not until this winter. That is the problem with a high mileage motor somewhat "prone" to spun bearings already.
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05-17-2012
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Evo time?
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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05-17-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by niterydr
Project took a step sideways last night. With 155,800 miles on the motor, it spun a bearing. We heard a slight clank after a pull to where power was dropped down, thought it may have been the TOB being a little loose as tension on the slave cylinder was weak, and then did another quick pull to check. Well that pull resulted in a smoke screen, hole in the oil pan, and probably the need for a 4-bolt upgrade.
With this amount of miles, I am not disappointed, just a forced upgrade to a 4 bolt motor. Still plan on going to the proving grounds to support John LaCroix's Galant, and hopefully will hit the track with this car end of season.
Plus side is the car was making 368hp@4300rpm and 480tq!
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Nice on the power, i want a ride in that.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Evo time?
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x2 for race car, or step your game up and get a nice infinity or something!
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05-17-2012
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Holy Torque. Jeebus! Are you going to build the engine with forged internals now? stock rebuild?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Holy Torque. Jeebus! Are you going to build the engine with forged internals now? stock rebuild?
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T.B.A Going to continue with side work, tuning, engine work, mechanical labor, and let the car sit for a few weeks, probably won't have time to pull the motor until AFTER the proving grounds. Then I"ll decide.
If things work out, very good chance it won't be TD04's anymore, unless I do just toss in a stock motor to get it up and running. The cost of a stock motor is so close to a monster build...might as well just spend the 25% more is my current train of thought.
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05-17-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Yea might as well. That's what I like about having a project AND a daily, you can let the project sit if need be while you're pissed or whatever, then get to it when you have the time/patience/money. Unlike a Daily project which you are forced to fix ASAP.
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Yea might as well. That's what I like about having a project AND a daily, you can let the project sit if need be while you're pissed or whatever, then get to it when you have the time/patience/money. Unlike a Daily project which you are forced to fix ASAP.
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Exactly!
I may rip out the wideband and toss it in the truck to see what I can get for MPG out of it though  May be worth the few bucks.
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05-17-2012
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flips McGee
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Fuck man, you cannot keep one of these running to save your life!
Sorry dude.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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05-17-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by scheides
Fuck man, you cannot keep one of these running to save your life!
Sorry dude.
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For now I am blaming this on the mileage on the motor, 155,800. Now....  next month, I'll figure out the forced upgrade spin on this minor setback.
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05-17-2012
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by scheides
Fuck man, you cannot keep one of these running to save your life!
Sorry dude.
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 ouch.
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Originally Posted by niterydr
For now I am blaming this on the mileage on the motor, 155,800. Now....  next month, I'll figure out the forced upgrade spin on this minor setback.
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it ain't no DSM. They love mileage.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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05-18-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
 ouch.
it ain't no DSM. They love mileage.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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Torn between a well balanced 3.0 setup at 50-60% power rating and a 3.5 setup I can utilize at 40% capacity...
Unless I find a smoking deal on a stock one, I"ll just drop in a built short block.
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05-18-2012
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Transmission destroyer
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
Can you guys use the 6g75 3.8L's or no. That would make some mad TQ!
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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05-18-2012
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Can you guys use the 6g75 3.8L's or no. That would make some mad TQ!
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There are some guys using the 6g74 with 6g75 crank and 6g75 mivec heads.
The worry is that the 6g75 service limit for overbore is less than the 6g74 so the block maybe to thin for a serious overbore. A 6g75 crank drops into the 74 block and with an offset piston pin gets it around a 3.8L engine with the block thickness of the 74.
The 6g75 MIVEC SOHC heads seriously outflow the 6g72/6g74 heads (virtually the same in most models), but getting it to fit under the hood on a 6g74 block is a pita.
However, the 6g75 heads on a 6g72 block with an offset ground 6g74 crank should fit easier (12mm shorter). I don't think anyone has done that, but I know if plenty of people that do the 6g74 crank in the 72 block with an offset grind and custom pistons/rods, gets it to a 3.4-3.7L with decent piston speeds.
Just comes down to how much you want to spend. I am leaning towards just a good old 3.1 (smallish overbore on a 4-bolt factory block), unless I come into a money tree ,then I'll do the offset ground 6g74 crank for a "sleeper" 3.5L.
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05-18-2012
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Reynolds number user
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
VR38 swap!
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05-18-2012
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: Lucky #13...Back in the saddle....92 rt/tt
I have a 6g75 that had the timing belt break on it if you are interested in parts.
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I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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