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Old 10-02-2010   #1
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

UPDATE 1:

Just got the call from Mitsu. They found my alignment to be PERFECTLY fine (even after 29k miles ). The ONLY thing they found was that the passenger side rear tire was off 1/10th of a degree. Based on that, the only logical deduction is that the tires are crapping out on their own. I'll be going to pick it up in a half hour and then heading on over to Discount Tire and probably getting into a fight with them so we'll see!
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Cobb Stg1 AMS 93 OTS: 305hp 291tq 20.6psi
Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)

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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

UPDATE 2:

Well I'm never going to Discount Tire again unless it's to fix a flat tire. They were less than helpful. They blamed the wear on the toe/camber settings of the car despite having shown them that it is up to par with the factory specs. So apparently factory specs are not good enough for any tires put on the Evo X. They also couldn't pro-rate them because of the thread loss and the uneven wear, so even if they sent them back to Goodyear, they would get nothing back. The only thing they could do for me was rotate my tires and tell me I have a really nice car. Of course, they tried to get me to look at other tires but I said no thanks to that.

For now, I guess I'm just going to wear these out, rotating them as necessary to minimize the cupping damage. I plan on going to visit PTP in Ft Worth when I need new tires as it's better to support a local shop full of good guys than a store chain that can't help you. I should have plenty of time to decide which tires to get by then. I'll most likely have to change my brake pads by then so I'll probably do it all at once (EBC Redstuff or RB ET500).

If you have tire suggestions, I'd appreciate it. I think I'll be going with a summer tire this time.
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Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)
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Old 10-02-2010   #3
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Good news about the alignment, bad news about the tires

Based on what I know about your driving habits, I'm going to suggest the Sumitomo HTR Z III (I've had 3 sets of these) or the Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 (thinking about trying these next).
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Good news about the alignment, bad news about the tires

Based on what I know about your driving habits, I'm going to suggest the Sumitomo HTR Z III (I've had 3 sets of these) or the Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110 (thinking about trying these next).
Based on those 2 tires, I'd have to go with the Sumitomo only because the Hankook's look like my Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S. The guy at Discount said he recommends asymmetrical tires as opposed to directional tires, especially for a car like the Evo which runs negative camber. Whether he was blowing smoke up my ass or not, that's what he said. I looked at my Advans and they feel/look ok. Nothing like my Goodyears. Tirerack has those Sumitomo's for $123 in the stock tire size. That's a pretty good deal if you ask me. The other thing I liked about the Sumitomo's is this

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The inside shoulder is linked by another continuous circumferential rib that enhances wear quality to help reduce noise throughout the life of the tire, especially on vehicles with independent suspensions and alignment settings that specify negative camber.
Considering that one of my Goodyears wore pretty badly on the inside shoulder, that part of the Sumitomo description gives it a +1 from me. I guess I'm adding the Sumitomo HTR Z III's to my list, which consists of just 1 tire so far...Sumitomo HTR Z III, lol! Thanks for the recommendation Kracka!
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Cobb Stg1 AMS 93 OTS: 305hp 291tq 20.6psi
Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)

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Old 10-02-2010   #5
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

UPDATE 3:

Managed to get my oil and oil filter changed after getting back from No Discount Tires. Also was able to put the Torque Solution drive shaft bushings back on. I could not manage to undo the bolts holding the cat to my catback. I blasted them with WD-40 and even busted out my dad's torque wrench to get more leverage and nothing. I ended up giving up as it was 6pm and parents were starving.

I realize now that I probably should have done the cat first when the bolts were still hot/warm instead of doing the oil and bushings. Lesson learned!

I'm heading over to Kracka's early tomorrow morning (well...trying to be there before 730 if possible...which for me is a hard thing to do, lol) to try and do the cat/test pipe swap before heading out to Cobb for the dyno day. Hopefully all goes well and we can get the pipe swapped so I can flash to Cobb's OTS Stage 2 for the dyno day.

For those who might be wondering, I really want to dyno the car with Cobb's OTS Stage 2 map because my mods have stayed the same from my Stage 1 OTS dyno pull until now. Swapping out the test pipe will allow me to run OTS Stage 2. So it will give me a good comparison of how well Cobb's OTS Stage 1 and Stage 2 maps compare. I'm currently on a Stage 1 protune from Cobb and making 317whp/322wtq. I made 305hp/291tq on their Stage 1 OTS. I'm guessing that with Stage 2 OTS, I'll probably be around the same hp/tq that I'm currently running. I plan to go back in a few weeks for a retune with a Grimmspeed 3port and a Synchronic BOV. Goal is to be a 330whp daily driver. After that, the car will be donezo!
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Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Star Specs are directional tires so I'll have to call bullshit on that--many people run them on Evos. Then again it looks like I'll only get 10k miles per set due to track use.

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Old 10-05-2010   #7
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

NTEC Dyno Day 10/3/2010!!

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Strapped on the Dyno


*Note: Before anyone mentions it, the mods listed on the dyno graph are not entirely right. The ones listed in this spreadsheet are the correct mods.


Dyno Graph
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Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Here is a comparison of Cobb's Off The Shelf Stage1 vs Stage2 LWG:




Here is a comparison of Cobb's Stage1 Protune vs Cobb OTS Stage2 LWG:
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Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Going to get pro tune at some point?
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Yes sir! I'm hoping for the end of this month or early November. Just placed an order with our friends at MAP for an AMS LICP, so I'll wait for that to come in. Final parts going on will be a GrimmSpeed 3port, AMS LICP, and Synapse Synchronic BOV. Once those go on and I'm retuned, car is donezo!
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Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)
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Awesome graph, power all the way across feels good, doesn't it?
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Yes it does! Yeah it's a little disappointing that Cobb's OTS Stage2 produced basically the same thing as the Stage1 protune I got from Cobb back in April, but I expected it. However, comparing Stage1 vs Stage2 (only real difference between them being stage1=cat, stage2=HFC/test pipe), they seem to line up pretty well. I think if I had gone with the Non Lowered Waste Gate map, I probably would have been closer to 320whp. Then the difference between Stage1 and Stage2 would have been more apparent.

Stage1: 305whp
Stage2 LWG: 315whp
Stage2 (estimated): 320whp

Assuming I would have gotten to 320whp with 3 more PSI of boost, then the "test pipe adds between 10-15hp" statement would hold true. Either way, once I go get retuned, I'll hopefully be at 330whp since I'll be running 26-27psi and Calvin (Cobb Plano's tuner) will be working with a 3port. Hopefully that will give him enough control over the boost that I'll break 330whp, which was my goal from Day 1.

It's been exciting every step of the way and I can't wait to see how it all ends up! Then maybe after it's all done, I can go about life again trying to find a girlfriend and writing code in my spare time, lol!
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Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)

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Old 10-11-2010   #13
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Hello brand new nice and shiny LICP.

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Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
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Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
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Old 10-16-2010   #14
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Just installed my LICP a while ago (using my brand new Craftsman tool set ), rechecked the clamps, put her back together, took for her a spin making sure to throw down the hammer every now and then, and everything checked out perfectly!
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Cobb Stg1 93 Pro: 317hp 322tq 24.5psi
Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 355hp 361tq 26.4psi (ported stuff)

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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Nice. You going to keep those worm clamps on there that are shown in the pic, or get some T-Bolts on there eventually?
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Yeah most likely for the time being. I may pick up some t-bolts later once I tear out the pipes again to get them powdercoated. Would kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

Scheduled a tune with Cobb Tuning Plano for Noon on 10/30/2010! Pretty excited to get my car finally finished (performance-wise). I'll be going over to Kracka's in the morning before my tune to install a 3port and BOV and then we'll carefully driving over to Cobb (~25min). A few hours later and I should have the finished product! Can't wait to see how well the car does.

I'll be getting a 93oct map as well as a 91oct map that I can use to get around during road trips in case 93 isn't readily available. I'm hoping for at least 330whp. An NTEC member just got tuned last Friday and made 340whp/356wtq on 93! Those are pretty amazing numbers for just basic bolt-ons (stock o2/dp actually). If I can get anywhere near that, I'll be a happy man.
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Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
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25mins? Might want to see if someone can zero out your wgdc tables so you can safely drive it there at wastegate boost.
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25mins? Might want to see if someone can zero out your wgdc tables so you can safely drive it there at wastegate boost.
So would you recommend just doing both swaps while outside Cobb? I drive pretty conservatively as it is, only step on it when I need to pass people or taking on ramps. Of course, I wouldn't be able to do that if I do the part swaps at Kracka's place.
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Cobb Stg2 AMS 93 OTS: 315hp 323tq 23psi (LWG map)
Cobb Stg2 93 Pro: 343hp 358tq 26psi
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Re: Greetings MitsuStyles! Kracka recruits yet another one!

The 3port is a big upgrade. I overboosted when I installed a better BOV (never know when you'll have to hit the gas to avoid an idiot). I'd install them in their parking lot...it's an easy job and it's actually warm where you live. lol.
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