March for health care! - Page 6

1QUICK4 · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

Tax the rich, fine the poor.

This is the biggest point that no one has been scrutinizing all along. Why in the world should the IRS be in charge of a "Health Care" bill enforcement? This bill is a blatant sham of a vehicle for the government to get deeper into the pockets of every American taxpayer. This is what this whole scam has been about all along. This is why they are pushing so hard to pass this sham. They need more money to keep spending like they are used to and want more of our money. This has to be stopped. It is merely a tax collection bill, not a Health bill.

**Kracka** · 03-22-2010

I agree, there is a reason it was forced through even though the majority of the country is against it, including some of the Dems even!

96GST16g · 03-22-2010

alot of my friends have discussed this, First black president, One BIG ass mistake. We had a teacher in school that said if he gets elected that the unitedstates was now the devided states and is going to be run by all the countries we owe money to. Not sure how its goin to pan out but were all F'd in the A

**Kracka** · 03-22-2010

The Republicans need to find a candidate for 2012 FAST b/c right now they have nobody. Palin is a joke. Pawlenty is a joke.

**Goat Blower** · 03-22-2010

Honestly, I don't think this will go too far. There's so much corruption just in getting the votes for this, not to mention their whole reconciliation process constitutionally has several requirements that were glossed over to pass, that there's tons of room to tie this up in court for years to come. Not to mention this will absolutely decimate the dems this November. Obama sent his sheep to slaughter on this one.

tpunx99GSX · 03-22-2010

Yay, Heathcare!
Im voting Dem in November. All of them, Regardless of views. Boner along with the rest of the GOP is retarded.

**Goat Blower** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

The Republicans need to find a candidate for 2012 FAST b/c right now they have nobody. Palin is a joke. Pawlenty is a joke.

Unless somebody comes out of the woodwork, I'll guess right now it's Palin. She's a lot smarter than you think, and she does what she says. Hopefully after this debacle, that'll mean something again.

tpunx99GSX · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Unless somebody comes out of the woodwork, I'll guess right now it's Palin. She's a lot smarter than you think, and she does what she says. Hopefully after this debacle, that'll mean something again.

I hope palin wins the GOP vote. Dems are a sure win then. Shes the Best thing to happen to the Democratic party. with all of the dirt that came out after they lost, she will never have a chance.
At least she wont need an eye exam, her long distance vision is impeccable.

**Kracka** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I hope palin wins the GOP vote. Dems are a sure win then. Shes the Best thing to happen to the Democratic party. with all of the dirt that came out after they lost, she will never have a chance.
At least she wont need an eye exam, her long distance vision is impeccable.

One of the rare times I actually agree with Tom.

tpunx99GSX · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

One of the rare times I actually agree with Tom.

wow, first heathcare reform, now chris agreeing with me on a political issue. What is this world coming to.

**Murlo26** · 03-22-2010

Man i just spent a while reading all of this...and wow is all i have to say.

I don't know enough about the situation to really argue, as I haven't had enough time to research it but more government control historically has not really improved much. It isn't all doom and gloom i don't think but I don't think it will work like everybody thinks it will.

I concur for sure that corruption stinks big time on this whole issue though. What worries me a bit is the president of my company sent out a letter saying how everything is finally turning around and that the economy will pick up as long as the government stops spending money and so forth. The first good words out of his mouth in months and now we are really going to get hit with taxes...yuck.

I have always said that sometimes it's best to let the other side have their way for a while and see what happens because usually no matter who it is, repubs or dems, they usually end up making themselves look bad by the end of 4 years. Case and point, 2 years this time though.

However i think it will all even out after the conservatives retake everything after all this mess over the past year.

I try not to care about this, it's too frustrating and people get way too pissed too easily.

**goodhart** · 03-22-2010

Anyone have a link to the actual bill? I just want to read what exactly passed so I can make my own opinion...

tpunx99GSX · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

However i think it will all even out after the conservatives retake everything after all this mess over the past year.

LOL. Just like how they evened out the surplus we had when clinton was prez. They did an even better job being that they caused a deficit. Thats over acheiving.

**Murlo26** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

LOL. Just like how they evened out the surplus we had when clinton was prez. They did an even better job being that they caused a deficit. Thats over acheiving.

I actually thought Clinton did a decent job.

However the surplus came for one reason...because nothing got done by the feds for that time. The president was dem and the congress was controlled by the repubs, marginally I believe. Basically a bunch of arguing and no spending and therefore a surplus, woo. Letting capitalism takes its course is the best thing we can do for the economy.

But Clinton was a dumb ass and made it possible for every idiot to think they are entitled to own a home and mortgage and everyone should get a loan. Which caused the current economic meltdown. Bush did nothing but made it worse.

I try and hate on everyone equally, I think most elected officials are jack asses personally, but i tend to agree with republican views.

**goodhart** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

I actually thought Clinton did a decent job.

However the surplus came for one reason...because nothing got done by the feds for that time. The president was dem and the congress was controlled by the repubs, marginally I believe. Basically a bunch of arguing and no spending and therefore a surplus, woo. Letting capitalism takes its course is the best thing we can do for the economy.

But Clinton was a dumb ass and made it possible for every idiot to think they are entitled to own a home and mortgage and everyone should get a loan. Which caused the current economic meltdown. Bush did nothing but made it worse.

I try and hate on everyone equally, I think most elected officials are jack asses personally, but i tend to agree with republican views.

Lots of the surplus came from Clinton cutting the Military down to the bare minimum.

A//// Guy · 03-22-2010

Not to mention, the economy was growing at a super fast rate, which was only bound to collapse on itself, just like the housing market.

We can thank Clinton for allowing home loans to go through, that shouldnt have been approved, which then lead to our housing bust a couple years ago.

**Murlo26** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy

Not to mention, the economy was growing at a super fast rate, which was only bound to collapse on itself, just like the housing market.

We can thank Clinton for allowing home loans to go through, that shouldnt have been approved, which then lead to our housing bust a couple years ago.

That's what I was saying, Clinton allowed too many people to get home loans. Houses are expensive, not everyone can afford one. That is called capitalism, we don't all have the same economic status. Some people rent, others own, way of the USA.

DSMINMN · 03-22-2010

Don't worry, I don't mind paying a s#!t load of money for Obombus' stupid decision... B.S. LOL a 15 year old knows this hell care bill will F many people up! Fricken crazy.

**LingLing** · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by DSMINMN

Don't worry, I don't mind paying a s#!t load of money for Obombus' stupid decision...

Of course you don't you're 15. Mommy and Daddy pay for your health insurance.

1QUICK4 · 03-22-2010

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Originally Posted by goodhart

Lots of the surplus came from Clinton cutting the Military down to the bare minimum.

That and borrowing heavily from the Social Security fund (which we will have to pay back soon and don't have the money)