Dave's Evo X Build/The Life of Dave blog - Page 43

**Murlo26** · 08-05-2010

Hmmm, probably why it seemed a bit thick, lol.

When it warmed up it felt great though

The guy on EvoM insisted it worked better for evo drivers, lol. Since we beat the shit outta our cars. But I think the AMSoil is more of a track thing.

**Kracka** · 08-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

The guy on EvoM insisted it worked better for evo drivers, lol. Since we beat the shit outta our cars. But I think the AMSoil is more of a track thing.

You'll love the Redline. I've been running it in all my cars since 2001 including my DSM's, S2000, Evos, and my wife's WRX.

**mlomker** · 08-05-2010

The stock X can take over 30, which wasn't true of the VIII. We've all heard of 35r guys running 40 on stock ignition so I suspect it'll work.

Hopefully the new motor doesn't have that phantom knock issue your stock one did.

**scheides** · 08-05-2010

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Originally Posted by mlomker

The stock X can take over 30, which wasn't true of the VIII. We've all heard of 35r guys running 40 on stock ignition so I suspect it'll work.

Hopefully the new motor doesn't have that phantom knock issue your stock one did.

Also untrue

Gap the plugs down and stock evo8-9 ignition (or are we talking headstuds? that works too!) can handle some pretty big boost. Is it the best/safest setup? Probably not, but I've seen it done!

Not trying to call you guys on every detail, but evoX is not so amazingly different/better than the evo8/9 or 1G/2G DSMs as most evoX owners depict.

**mlomker** · 08-05-2010

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(or are we talking headstuds? that works too!)

The X's don't need them into the low 30's--perhaps further since I've never read a report of a head lifting. Seems like all of the VIII owners upgrade them.

**Kracka** · 08-05-2010

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but evoX is not so amazingly different/better than the evo8/9 or 1G/2G DSMs as most evoX owners depict.

This is very true and one of the major things that really irritates me when reading EvoXForums and the X section on EvoM. Different engine and layout yet, but overall the cars are all very similar and respond similarly to mods. A lot of knowledge learned from DSM's and 8/9's effectively carries over to the X.

**cmspaz** · 08-05-2010

The technical term, as far as I've been led to believe at least, is a COP/slave system.

**mlomker** · 08-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Kracka

A lot of knowledge learned from DSM's and 8/9's effectively carries over to the X.

Are you saying that people don't believe you when you tell them stuff or just that they don't know what was previously done? If someone had bought an Evo X as their first Mitsu then they probably haven't spent a lot of time reading DSM forums. I'd be willing to bet that applies to half of the X owners on the forums.

You'll find more knowledgable people on the DSM, 8 & 9 forums because mechanically inclined people are more likely to buy one. Guys that are afraid of wrenches buy something new and with a warranty. Mitsu warranty ftw. lol.

**Kracka** · 08-05-2010

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Are you saying that people don't believe you when you tell them stuff or just that they don't know what was previously done?

Both

This relates to suspension and brake setups too, they're very similar in design to the 8/9.

**Murlo26** · 08-05-2010

I spoke to Shane/Danny and Michael at ETS and they all said the Evo heads in general didn't really have the lifting head problems the DSM's did...I am not saying the Evo X is better than the 8/9's at that but for sure the DSM's.

Also, AFAIK, the stock X has COP, the 8/9's don't so I guess I assumed it was better I could be wrong...

But Shane said high boost on E85 requires some pretty crazy ignition, he said it won't necessarily break up but boost might go up and power won't he said.

No one on the X has done super high HP on E85 aside from Gates. I wonder if he is on the stock ignition still. He has slowly gotten rid of most stock stuff.

**mlomker** · 08-05-2010

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No one on the X has done super high HP on E85 aside from Gates.

Have you read the threads on Gump's build? He's E85...retarded power level, regardless of how dynos read.

**Murlo26** · 08-05-2010

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Have you read the threads on Gump's build? He's E85...retarded power level, regardless of how dynos read.

I don't think so...pretty sure he is on Race fuel, c16 or vp or something.

He only has 1300cc injectors, don't think that would support 800whp. I could be wrong though.

Just checked he was on sunoco 117.

**Kracka** · 08-05-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

X has COP, the 8/9's don't

This is correct. The 8/9 has what I guess you could call a half COP setup with 2 cylinders having coils and the other two having plug wires leading from the coil to the sparkplug. The two coils did seem to be lacking though, the Denso ones that people upgrade to (Spoolinup and SparkTech kits) are much stronger. that being said, I ran my stock plugs out to .027" gap on the stock coils/boots/wires with no misfires at 26psi on pump gas, I then switched to the Denso coils and ran Denso plugs out to .031" gap with again no issues or misfires.

**Kracka** · 08-05-2010

I think a lot of the VIII guys prematurely replaced their headstuds b/c they came into the game with a DSMer's mentality (and background). It became much less frequent with the IX's as they began to prove how much they could take and people finally started to realize that replacing the headstuds prematurely was leading to more issues than it was preventing.

**scheides** · 08-11-2010

Have you seen what people are saying about the DW1300's? Very inconsistent, very noisy, kinda scurry:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-e...ml#post8573934

**Murlo26** · 08-11-2010

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Originally Posted by scheides

Have you seen what people are saying about the DW1300's? Very inconsistent, very noisy, kinda scurry:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-e...ml#post8573934

Noise doesn't bother me...won't be able to hear it over my turbo and exhaust anyway. I will wait and see, hopefully I get lucky. Or maybe I will end up buying another set of 1000's, lol, and totally regret selling mine.

edit: people always said the 1000's were loud and clicky too, i never heard them over my other stuff.

**mlomker** · 08-11-2010

Umm, yeah...Buschur exhaust.

311evo · 08-11-2010

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Umm, yeah...Buschur exhaust.

Buschur exhaust helps the shitty idling heh? And when you're in front of the car, you can hear the tick quite a bit.

**mlomker** · 08-11-2010

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Buschur exhaust helps the shitty idling heh?

When the ID2000's were in my car the warm starts weren't so good. It's safe to say all of the larger injectors have their issues. The ID's ran like a top once the car was started.

I hear people whining about how loud the Bosch 044 is as well. I can't hear it from the driver's seat, even with the windows down. Who cares if the guy next to me at a stoplight has to listen to it?

turbotalon1g · 08-11-2010

ID2000s if u are gonna 35r