No More Bashing Threads! Discuss...

[Swifty1638]

Wow. I'm gone to work all day long, come home, and see all this unfold.

Atleast now my cornhole can seal back up from all the insertions i've recieved, and I'm happy to know It all closed with my bashing thread being the biggest, and original one! I guess people had alot to say about me!

I cannot say spaz's comment in that thread was needed, and was in distaste, but that's been stated time and time again, so I'd rather not beat the dead horse and move on.

Who's buyin me a beer?

-A. Swift

[4seasons69]

Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy

By far this is the best forum I have ever been on and the nicest. So THANKS guys for running such a nice and calm site!

I'm going to have to agree with this bigtime. this is by far the nicest and best forum I've been on. back when I had an mx6 and was on the mx6 forum you would get grilled just for asking a question like everyone on there was a car god and knew everything there is to know about cars. that doesnt happen here. thats why I like this site so much

[viridionplague]

it seems that i missed the juicy parts but this thread has become the prime example of why we should not have bashing threads.

this thread started as a good thread about a specific topic but turned into a giant bashing thread of its own about the same old shit.

i havent been here long, and ive only met a handful of people. those i have met i have nothing but respect for. but those of you i havent, i have lost some respect for based on your conduct in this thread, and i havent even met you guys yet.

from an outside source it looks like this forum is made of a bunch of teenage brats who care more about what someone else is doing than what your doing yourself or just helping people out with there cars and whatever else.

this is a car forum not a shit festival and from what ive seen its almost a 70-30 split, shit pies > car forum

if you got a problem with someone else why cant you just either deal with them personaly or just leave them to there buisness? is that really so hard.

i had some more thoughts but i hit the back button and lost them. damn dont you hate it when that happens?

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

Who's buyin me a beer?

No one, because you didn't threaten anybody.

JK, JK. I'll buy you one if nobody else will.

And Andrew, I feel the same way about going to meets. I'm not going to go online and rip someone a new asshole when I know I'll see them in less than a week. It's just not, you know, a smart thing to do. Doesn't help that everyone on here could kick my ass, either. And yes, I'm including Emily in "everyone".

[Ihearrtdsm]

All I can say is I really enjoy this forum and those I met we had fun. I learned alot of things and not even just about cars. Thanks for the forums hopefully I can get sometime to come out to more events :-D

[FattyBoomBatty]

Viridionplague - you should have read my first iteration of my post, lol. Maybe what should happen is instead of posting right away, the forum will make you wait 30 seconds or a minute then say, "are you sure you want to post that?" I bet it would give people enough time to reconsider what they wrote and change things that are "too much."

If you want to see a strictly moderated, but "family friendly" car site, visit starquestclub.com. They don't take crap from anyone there. You get booted at the first sign of being as asshole. A year and a half ago, I got banned for nearly 6 months for being a douchebag, and was only let back in because someone else vouched for me. Since then I've made good and only contribute positively. I try to do the same here usually.

[Swifty1638]

It you think starquest is bad? try teamNABR! atleast the old site..you had to be invited, write an acceptance essay, etc..every post had to be constructive, correctly punctual, etc..and the mods where total nazis! (steve hill was one of them, dunno how as he hardly posted from what I rmemeber!) and elite of elite where consistant posters on there, like rau, shep, kiggly, etc..

-A. Swift

[viridionplague]

its not that i dont like it here. cause i do. its just that sometimes all this shit gets annoying, and when it starts spilling into other threads its kind of annoying.

and some of the threads just look bad from an outside opinion.

im all for jokes, posting funny stuff or serius stuff other than strait up car stuff. but sometimes it just goes way to far and way outside the lines.

and specifically making a bashing thread about someone just looks horribly distasteful no matter how you look at it

[JET]

Wow. The biggest thing here is that if people don't want a bashing thread about them, the don't post in it. Both Spaz and Swifty posted in their bashing threads. It wouldn't be fun for the bashers if you didn't post in the threads and they would quit.

Spaz, I have met you several times and I can tell you are a good person. I think you might just try a little too hard around people or something. Every time I have met you I have heard some ludicrous story about you driving drunk and recklessly. Nobody thinks that is cool or funny, it is stupid. Stop trying so hard, chill out and relax. I think you and everyone else will have more fun.

And Swifty, Tom had the original bashing thread, not you!

[Kevin 1G Drummer]

Originally Posted by Kracka

So were the threats on his face and balls. Stuff like that is too easily twisted on the internet and all it takes is for one person to take it seriously before real bad things start to happen. I don't want to see anyone hurt over something dumb that was said online. We're here to have fun!

My post on that was made in jest. I know Spaz would not intentionally run into anyone either on a bike, or in a car, and I'm sure he knows that I wouldn't do things like that to him. I know that words on the internet are easily twisted, and if I offended anyone by making that post, I'm genuinely sorry. I don't have a problem with Spaz personally.

I'm glad to see that the bashing threads are closed, since all of the fun seems to have been sucked out of them and been replaced with low blows, and inappropriate comments. Now, let's get back to talking about cars, and have some fun here again!

[poofy97gsx]

i know i wasnt on the forum's when the majority of this took place but i just wanted to put in my two cents.

I recently quit the car club i was in down here in roch called RPM because of members bashing me about my car. i understand that the bashing wasnt about a members car but i do understand the feeling. i feel that if your part of a group/club it should be friends and car talk. if a conflict goes to the point that events and cruises are not possible with these people then something needs to be done. that was the point that i had gotten to with my club and thats why i quit. i support a no bashing forum

[FattyBoomBatty]

Yeah, there were times in the past when I felt I couldn't go to meets or whatever because I'd see people I had recently argued with on the internet. Lame as that is, it's not fun to be in the situation.

[Swifty1638]

fatty, why would you say peter is "on a pedistal" ? I can vouch for him actually being a really decent guy. I've been drunk, he gave me a roof, i've needed to borrow a few bucks here and there, he's had me (I've paid him back, don't worry) and he's been a good guy to me to turn to for ME to keep my sanity through the SHIT i've been dragged through as of late. Does your opinion of me differ because I'm never out at the wednesday meets, or a few other meets that are had around here? I think many can contest to me being a good guy, as they could with him. Perhaps under a new light, you could approach him maturely, and hold a discussion?

Mods, I understand where you are coming from on certain things, and as always you know I love it here. I really am lost on how this "banning spree" came about though..opinions where asked to be given, so they where. you banned those who gave it, but not others who gave theirs? How is it spaz has skated by? Does that mean that I too will be banned for giving my opinion on certain topics? Is that not what you asked?

-A. Swift

[cmspaz]

Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty

Maybe what should happen is instead of posting right away, the forum will make you wait 30 seconds or a minute then say, "are you sure you want to post that?" I bet it would give people enough time to reconsider what they wrote and change things that are "too much."

I usually do a "preview post" at least once before posting something, unless it's a quick reply, as last night's post unfortunately was.

Originally Posted by JET

Every time I have met you I have heard some ludicrous story about you driving drunk and recklessly. Nobody thinks that is cool or funny, it is stupid.

Really? I hardly ever tell stories, let alone stories of me being drunk, and even less stories about me being drunk and driving (and for the record I never drive if I'm even moderately intoxicated, so drunk is a relative term). The last time was the Civic, what other ones have you heard?

Originally Posted by Swifty1638

fatty, why would you say peter is "on a pedistal" ? I can vouch for him actually being a really decent guy. I've been drunk, he gave me a roof, i've needed to borrow a few bucks here and there, he's had me (I've paid him back, don't worry) and he's been a good guy to me to turn to for ME to keep my sanity through the SHIT i've been dragged through as of late.

Mods, I understand where you are coming from on certain things, and as always you know I love it here. I really am lost on how this "banning spree" came about though..opinions where asked to be given, so they where. you banned those who gave it, but not others who gave theirs? How is it spaz has skated by? Does that mean that I too will be banned for giving my opinion on certain topics? Is that not what you asked?

Two things... first, he roofied you as a joke? Some fucking joke. Not something I'd laugh off, that's for sure.

Secondly, this "banning spree." I managed to "skate by" because I was talking with Hughes and Scheides pretty much all day, trying to work this shit out, as opposed to the original banned parties who tried to make a huge deal out of the whole situation and dragged it out, a shitstorm neither Scheides nor Hughes wanted to deal with. The non-involved parties who're banned asked for it to try to make some ridiculous point whose logic escapes me. Hell, I even told Hughes I would rather he wait on the bannings until we at least tried to work things out on Friday, but he and Scheides felt things got too out of hand and made the decision to ban.

[Swifty1638]

No he didn't "roofie" me..he provided my drunk ass shelter.

I'm not pointing fingers, but merely slapping everyone in her in the face..wake up! Smell the coffee. it all got outta hand, everyone is in the wrong, everyone grow up and learn from it. I understand the moderators don't care to deal with it, but as a moderator your job is to do just that. If not, then don't be one (Again, not stabbing at you guys, but merely stating the obvious).

I'm not trying to call anyone out, but I'm merely pointing out things from a different perspective, and a differing POV.

-A. Swift

[Kracka]

Swifty, you do not have a clue what went on or what posts were made that led to the bans. Scheides and I put up with quite a bit, and handed out enough warnings, before anyone got banned. The line was crossed too many times and our limits were intentionally being tested. When we asked numerous times to keep the thread on-topic and/or to start showing respect to all members on the board it is expected those requests be followed.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Swifty, you do not have a clue what went on or what posts were made that led to the bans. Scheides and I put up with quite a bit, and handed out enough warnings, before anyone got banned. The line was crossed too many times and our limits were intentionally being tested. When we asked numerous times to keep the thread on-topic and/or to start showing respect to all members on the board it is expected those requests be followed.

For real. Is it too much to ask for an ounce of respect in the posts that get moderated? I think everyone knows us well enough to know that if we deleted something or banned someone, it was for good reason. If you have a deleted post or have been banned and you don't know why, perhaps step back for a moment and take a breath before posting 'why did you delete my post!?!?!' or 'why did I get banned!?!?!?'....I've received a few PMs or IMs from people like this and I'd appreciate it a ton more if I just didn't. If you don't know why, please give the moderator the benefit of the doubt and trust that we have good intentions and are not personally attacking you, your family, your mother, and your dog.

An ounce, please. Just an ounce.

[Matt D.]

Here is where I stand on this.

The people at fault need to man up and accept the fact that they're wrong. Scheides and Kracka dealt with it as they felt they needed to and that's the end of the subject.

Spaz, Peter and anyone else involved needs to calm down, drop the animosity and get on with life. There is no sense in expressing your profound hate for one another on this forum, on Facebook or even in person. I like all of you guys, but reading some of those posts in the bashing threads made me downright sick. You all know better.

Quit being idiots before I ban you all myself.

[JET]

Originally Posted by cmspaz

Really? I hardly ever tell stories, let alone stories of me being drunk, and even less stories about me being drunk and driving (and for the record I never drive if I'm even moderately intoxicated, so drunk is a relative term). The last time was the Civic, what other ones have you heard?

Well that is odd. I have met you 3 times and heard a drunk story each time. One was quite elaborate where you were talking about launching on a cop like 6 times, but he was out of his jourisdiction (which we busted you on, I believe TKR was the other one) and you said you were completely wasted. The last one you were racing some random car while you were drunk, a civic I think. I didn't pay much attention really.

So you say here you don't drive while drunk, but I have heard 3 stories where you say you are drunk and race people. Lying to try to impress people doesn't work. The stories all sounded quite fabricated, so I would guess you are telling the truth here. I would hope so anyway. Like I said before, just chill out and be yourself and you will be fine.

[TheBlizzard]

JET seriously, we could take up a 8 hour shift talking about driving drunk stories back in the day with no fabrication needed.