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Old 12-02-2010   #661
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Looking good! Crazy how much work it is to do the cams on an X!
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Old 12-02-2010   #662
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I dealt with those buckets on a friend's Focus, worst fucking idea in the world.
Yeah, I'd obviously like a set of S2s now that they've proven themselves but for what the install would cost...it's probably not worth the few hp.
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Old 12-02-2010   #663
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Re: beaterX project thread

My motorcycle has a shim-in-bucket setup like that, and I need to pull it apart cuz the front cylinder has developed a little bit of a tick. I'm not looking forward to it.
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Yeah, I'd obviously like a set of S2s now that they've proven themselves but for what the install would cost...it's probably not worth the few hp.
They have been put off till infinity now it seems, so don't lose any sleep over it! First it was last week of November, then Dec 22, now I hear Jan 24th. Sigh, at least I got some kelfords that fit! I can't wait to fire this thing up.
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Old 12-02-2010   #665
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Swap in a 4G63.
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Old 12-02-2010   #666
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Pulled the head off tonight, got the turbo sorted, manifold mounted to the head, stupid oil filter in the block, and the head back on the car, torqued to 92ft-lbs. Fiddled with a few other things and just called it good. Thanks for the hand tonight Rosey!







Now the bad news. *one* of the tappets I need is on backorder, but the warehouse waited until too late in the day to call brookdale back to inform them this, so I tried to order the other two that I need, but they cannot be here till monday. Once the new tappets come in I'm going to see what I can do rearranging stuff but Gosh, DB, and MAP no one has this size tappet. Boo.

Todo list is getting smaller than the list of stuff done finally, I'd love to fire it up this weekend but I might just have to do everything but the cams, sigh. Stupid tappets make me want to stabby stab! Fingers crossed for a miracle.
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Sorry to hear
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Old 12-02-2010   #668
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Glad to help out! We made some good progress tonight. Hopefully some major luck happens with the tappets.
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Old 12-04-2010   #669
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Just got done shoveling for about an hour, heat is on and gonna head out to the garage soon! If you're bored, feel free to swing by.
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I dealt with those buckets on a friend's Focus, worst fucking idea in the world.
I don't know that it's the worst idea in the world. Makes it a PITA to work on the head, but at least you don't get lifter tick! Tough some simple screws and lock nuts like Honda still uses would be nice!
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Old 12-04-2010   #671
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Re: beaterX project thread

If we cared about lifter tick we wouldn't drive Mitsus.

Scheides put his chain on:


Besides that, a ton of other stuff got done, this being the end result before dinner:


Holy shit, that's a complete motor!

Scheides is probably still in the garage doing a few more things, I'll let him post the details when he's ready.
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Old 12-05-2010   #672
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WOOOOOOOO! Congrats guys!
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LOL thats the timing chain for those that forgot the 4b11 doesn't have a belt Spaz, after you guys left I wandered back into the garage 'for a few minutes' until Anna called around 1am for me to come pick her up from her sisters. I looked at the clock and was like holy eff!

Yesterday was pretty epic, this car is going to turn over today. I'll post up later with the full baby-mama-drama story, classic 'goddamn it why does this shit always happen to me' stuff included.
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Awesome to hear dude!
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Shit son that chain is ballin' When you working on it next? Would love to help out if I have the time.
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Headed out to the garage now! Come on over if ya want
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mofo, i just got home.
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I hear you need spark plugs in order to start a car...
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Oh boy what a weekend! Let me just get this out of the way, I was ultimately thwarted by spark plugs. More on that later. After everything else it is just laughable at this point, but fuk it! I made so much progress this weekend, I'm just pumped. Had to work friday night so got up saturday, put the heater on in the garage and let it warm up. It was about 15° outside, and by the time I finished, later that night it would be a balmy 8°. Snowed a good 6" the night before so I shoveled for a solid hour too, good way to get the blood pumpin!

...and started unpacking all of the tappets, fully expecting to be fubar'd immediately. To my surprise, one of the ones that was not going to be in until monday was in the bag! I took a whack at putting all of them in, and to my surprise, every valve but two was in spec, and one was only out of spec by .001". I swapped a few tappets around and corrected it, and then voila! Happyness! I cheered with glee!

I decided to torque w/ torque wrench to be sure....soon thereafter I swore the 2nd loudest I ever have in my garage. 107 inch pounds is the spec, I need to get a torque wrench that actually reads that low:


Gezus fuk. I then spent a few hours finding a thread repair kit.....only to break another bolt....Rosey and MattD helped me out and ran all over town finding 16 new unstretched bolts to put the cams in with. So yea, nervous time with a drill and carefully covered *everything* on the head, I got things back into happy time funland, and then got the timing chain on



Was a learning experience, but not too much different than doing a timing belt on a 4G63. Probably easier actually, no balance shafts to bother with! Finally after hours of dinking around, timing and valve cover securely in place! Thanks to spaz and lomker for the help!



Damn seems like its ready to fire up? Gah still a ways away. I got back from dinner and headed back into the garage, maybe around 9:30pm? Anna called me to come pick her up from her sister's place, I was shocked to see it was 1am. But, I had the intake manifold and all associated sensors bolted and wired, injectors seated and fuel rail bolted down!

The next morning trevor came to give me a hand. We threw down and put on everything needed to turn the thing over w/ a key & starter and not a wrench and hand IC pipes, fuel lines, intake, ecu, passenger axel, filled all fluids, etc.


I hopped in and primed the motor with spark plugs out and injectors unhooked. She turned over smooth and easy, I was so proud! I hopped out and snapped this pic, the car ready to fire up. All it needed was spark plugs. Wait, spark plugs!??! OMFG! They were in the head when I gave it to DB and probably set aside during the rebuild. Last time I looked, plugs for the X weren't available anywhere but the dealer, boo. I ended up finding some, but won't be able to get them until tomorrow (monday).



Note the spark plug wrench I even got out in preparation to put them in. DOH!


To make matters worse, the coolant pipe that runs under the exhaust manifold that I had *specifically* left attached to the water pump assembly so as to not have to replace the gasket....mofo was dripping coolant. Gah! Classic. So instead of losing sleep over all of the problems, I just drained the coolant and dried everything out (yippee had to pull the tstat housing back off too ), put some rtv on the gaskets and put it all back together.

I had been purposefully waiting to put some of the suspension and pass motor mount back on in case of other problems, but I figured what the heck, and basically got the car ready to go. Bumper cover on (no crash beam yet, more problems with my angle grinder), all suspension sorted pretty much everything else. All it needs is coolant, spark plugs, and snow tires

One last thing actually, I can't get the fourth bolt into the turbo from the manifold. It is a tight tight spot and I am just going to risk an exhaust leak for now to get the car running.

Ready to rock
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Last time I looked, plugs for the X weren't available anywhere but the dealer, boo. I ended up finding some, but won't be able to get them until tomorrow (monday).
I would like to add to this saying that my computer does not have any worthwhile plug info for the new Lancers yet (all models use the same plug)... But the 2010 NGK book does.

$20 a pop, located in our warehouse, if anybody's looking.
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