Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.

[Goat Blower]

[A//// Guy]

So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

Thought I'd add some of my real world experience, so far the only such occurrence in any of these silly threads. Does it have much to do with this thread, probably not. But I explain the effects of CO2 on food to engineers all day, so it's kinda interesting.



Because any useful rebuttal is a waste of time, I was really interested in this topic and read a ton of books about it 12-13 years ago, the arguments and end result hasn't changed since then. It's more fun just to make fun of you guys arguing about this senseless waste of time since nobody's opinion is going to change one way or another. If you believe global warming/cooling/climate change is man-made, no amount of charts, graphs and data are going to sway you otherwise.

Damn, I've already broken my rule about only posting pictures from now on in all political threads. Just seems appropriate.

Unfortunately that is the issue. There are people that will no matter what believe the earth is flat. No matter what you tell them. You can give observations of stars, Shadows, and all kinds of evidence to show them, we are a ball. Then when they finally take a trip around the earth, and will say they knew it all along.
"Every great scientific truth goes through Three phases:
First people say it cant be true.
second they say it conflicts with the bible,
third they say it was true all along."
- Neil deGrasse Tyson
More and more evidence will show up and eventually you will realize the truth with the more evidence in stronger and stronger storms, Longer and longer droughts, more and more toxic air.

[jeremy1375]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Unfortunately that is the issue. There are people that will no matter what believe the earth is flat. No matter what you tell them. You can give observations of stars, Shadows, and all kinds of evidence to show them, we are a ball. Then when they finally take a trip around the earth, and will say they knew it all along.
"Every great scientific truth goes through Three phases:
First people say it cant be true.
second they say it conflicts with the bible,
third they say it was true all along."
- Neil deGrasse Tyson
More and more evidence will show up and eventually you will realize the truth with the more evidence in stronger and stronger storms, Longer and longer droughts, more and more toxic air.

+1

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

[Trogdor]

[Goat Blower]

The earth is flat rebuttal, didn't see that coming.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

You personify this image i posted earlier.


THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

[Halon]

The earth IS flat..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5726262.html

"For some time now serious physicists have been pondering the seemingly absurd possibility that three-dimensional space is merely an illusion--and that we actually live in a two-dimensional "hologram."

[Goat Blower]

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

You personify this image i posted earlier.


THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

I didn't change the wording, read every post in here that I've made regarding humans having a negative affect. Not just temperature change.

I can agree that temps have fluctuated over millions of years. Now correlating the two things long term, is what the issue is for you. Denying that climate may change because of the things you mentioned seems a bit out of reality. Whether its a slow change, or a fast one, something has to happen.

[tpunx99GSX]

I can do that too.

[jeremy1375]

[Murlo26]

Good thread we got going here it looks like.

I like that all my fox news anchor chicks are hot blonds

[1ViciousGSX]

Preach it all you want. Bottom line is until the "Data" manipulation for an agenda stops, its a moot point. Because as proven, that 97% you keep referring to isn't really 97%.

[Goat Blower]

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[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

+1

[1ViciousGSX]