Climate Change - Stop the bullshit already.

[A//// Guy]

So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by A//// Guy

So you flat out believe that we aren't causing any harm to the environment? If not, I will not waste any more of both of our time in talking about this.

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

You personify this image i posted earlier.


THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

[Goat Blower]

Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

You personify this image i posted earlier.


THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

[JET]

97% of scientists used to say the earth was flat. Should they have been believed? Real scientists know that anything without 100% evidence is just a theory and can be proven wrong at any point. Our guestimates at previous temps are a rough guess at best.

We have no proof that humans are causing a rise in global temperatures. The temperatures have always varies drastically and always will. We can't prove how much (if any) of an effect we have had on that. I do think we have had a small affect on the change, but I also think it is drastically overstate.

Remember that climate scientists are making money off this, so polling them is probably not the most unbiased poll you can do. Go ask the experts in UFO's if they exist and you will probably get a high percentage also. I just wish more people would think for themselves and not be led around like sheep.

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

You personify this image i posted earlier.


THERE IS NOT EQUAL DATA TO ARGUE IT. YOU SIR ARE WRONG>

[tpunx99GSX]

Originally Posted by JET

97% of scientists used to say the earth was flat. Should they have been believed? Real scientists know that anything without 100% evidence is just a theory and can be proven wrong at any point. Our guestimates at previous temps are a rough guess at best.

Until it was measured and proven yes... measured and proven.

Originally Posted by JET

We have no proof that humans are causing a rise in global temperatures. The temperatures have always varies drastically and always will. We can't prove how much (if any) of an effect we have had on that. I do think we have had a small affect on the change, but I also think it is drastically overstate.
A

Funny thing about that is that we actually DO have proof. and measurements. and are still measuring it, and are monitoring it. Funny thing about that eh. We have all these things that float above the atmosphere called satellites, and we even have stuff down here called Tools that measure various elements in the atmosphere. Climate scientists are not just making this crap up. (This is not religion where theories are accepted without proof). There are TONS of resources available that state WHY we know its human made, and not volcanic, or the sun changing etc.
In fact there was a whole assessment done on the very fact that human involvement is a large contributor to this mess
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...r4_syr_spm.pdf

[A//// Guy]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

I didn't change the wording, read every post in here that I've made regarding humans having a negative affect. Not just temperature change.

I can agree that temps have fluctuated over millions of years. Now correlating the two things long term, is what the issue is for you. Denying that climate may change because of the things you mentioned seems a bit out of reality. Whether its a slow change, or a fast one, something has to happen.

[1ViciousGSX]

Originally Posted by Goat Blower

You changed the wording. Do I believe we are causing global warming? Nope, not one bit. Is it actually happening? Maybe. There is an equal amount of data to argue either point.

Do I believe we are harming the environment in other ways with pollution in general? Yes, absolutely. There are a lot of deadly gases we're emitting that in larger concentrations can cause problems, like smog. I'm all for the cuts we made 40 years ago to corporate emissions and even vehicle exhaust to some degree, unfortunately this whole argument takes it way beyond that to the point of absurdity.

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