09-30-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Nah, I used a pliers to wiggle the hose on that last little bit and I *just* tweaked it a little bit too much. I knew what I did when I did it, but what can I say, I didn't fix it...beater! When I got it off, there's a little pinhole where that happened, obviously leaking/spraying from there. Fixed now(you can see the new line in the pic), hopefully the 3/8" hose I had in my box-o-misc hoses will last at least a little while.
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...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-30-2010
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: beaterX project thread
Ahh I see. How is the 111 tuning going then  I figured it wasn't too big of secret anymore since spaz already posted a giant pic of you filling up in the cell phone pics thread
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09-30-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
The only update I have is in what I posted. I added some timing too but we'll see what she does on saturday! I was at 97% IDC on pump gas (w/10% ethanol) and now at 85%, so up goes the boost!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-30-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
Put in a little more 111 for the dyno day saturday. I really really need to do a boost leak test but I've been working literally all day and night for my regular job and organizing for the dyno day. BeaterX will be lucky if it is washed for Saturday, sigh.
Stock MAF housing is DONE. 31.x psi tapering to 28, added some timing, leaned it out a tish. You can see the maf volts hit 5.0 up top and the fuel start to go a little lean. My calcs say I'm at 86% IDC and I've run them higher, so I'm sure its just the ecu not seeing the overrun air volume and thus not accounting for it. I'll add a tish of fuel to the map to account for that I guess.
Comments welcome. After this its back to pump gas for the winter and and saving/planning what to do next. Miles and smiles I guess 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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09-30-2010
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FLOSSEN
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
Awesome I see you added more timing up top! Do work son!
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10-01-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: beaterX project thread
Nice, I bet 111 finds its way for the cruise. 
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10-01-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Nice, I bet 111 finds its way for the cruise. 
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Haha nah. The car is plenty fun on 100% BP93, I'll have other stuff to worry about come cruise weekend (keep it between the ditches and shiny side up!). Plus at $6.99/gallon, my wallet will be empty in notime!
Might as well share the story of last night. I worked until about 1am and decided I should really do a boost leak test. Sure enough, injector #4 manifold side had a leak. Pulled the rail off and yup, I squished it upon install, fail scheides. These were brand new seals from DW.
Stole a seal off of a stock injector and luckily it fit. Got it put in and I tightened down the rail, fired the car up, gasoline everywhere. One of the injectors had caught on the flange and not seated properly (#3 IIRC). Loosen rail. Align carefully, decide I should just push down with my hand and leak test again. FML, I see the rail-side seal on #1 squish out. Fukin ripped it in half!
Stole another seal off of stockers, luckily they fit. Lube it and carefully seat everything. tighten, no leaks on either side, fire up the car, go for a mini spin. Woohoo! What a bish but good to go.
Get in the car this morning, car starts hard and smells like fuel, I write it off to what I spilled last night. Get a few miles down the road, pop the hood, fuel spraying out of #2 now. FML. Drive home, get the GLI, go to work. This is what I get for working too much I think, carelessness.
Will get it buttoned up for tomorrow, frustrated and tired and overworked.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-01-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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You have one day to fix any issues before the 2 week cruise rule. 
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I still blame shane for all of this, I could have just left pump gas in it and left it leaky, ignorance is bliss, right? :P
Seriously though, yes, 2-week rule is in full effect! Button it up tonight for tomorrow and then just miles and smiles. I'll switch back to my pump gas tune via (tephra mapswitching) when my tank-o-111 runs dry.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-01-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: beaterX project thread
FTL. Damn you and this 2 week rule.
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10-04-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
So, apparently the stock ignition is teh ghey, it was not liking 29+psi on the 111 leaded, even with the stock plugs gapped down to .020. Boo. Still, looks like topping up before going to the track is an easy +30whp/+30wtq for me, so if I never get Aquamist or E85 I'll likely just do this.
Before: 414whp/~335wtq@27psi
http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evoX/IMG_1422
After: 443whp/~360wtq@30psi, ignition breakup, +3° self tune. Tach signal failed so no torque, sorry.
I added 3° of timing across the board and 4° from 6500 up. Not sure if the car actually *hit* an extra 3° of timing with the elevated boost/load levels, but it was close. After the dyno I turned down teh boost to 28.5 peak and it lost the misfire and honestly felt faster. Sigh, wish I would have just done that on the dyno. Oh well.
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10-24-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
BeaterX stays true to its name!
Compression test the other night: 70 135 140 145
booo!
I put a cap of oil into cyl #1 and it brought compression up to 140. Gah, sounds like bottom-end problems
I borrowed Ron @ RS' boroscope today (thanks agian Ron!) and it confirmed, 4b11's are DSM's too! LOL. The pics are fuzzy but I'll have better ones whenever I get the head off. Not sure on schedule or parts spec yet, but rebuild is def in order.
Vertical scoring
Something ucky going on with part of the piston/ring land:
I'll post real pics once the head comes off and the parts start coming in.
ps--for those keeping track: yes I uber-broke two evos in one year. Yeow.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-24-2010
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
I was sad to see this today...you will get her back to full strength and then some though! Good luck with it man.
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10-24-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
It sucks too, I just got my new ignition working:
Oh well, we'll have to test it out on another car.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-24-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: beaterX project thread
Shitty man, but 4b11 not quite up to dsm power yet another 200whp and i would of agreed.
so where now? 
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10-24-2010
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*Resting In Peace*
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: beaterX project thread
Hmm. What symptoms prompted the compression test?
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10-24-2010
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Walls need hugs too
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Hmm. What symptoms prompted the compression test?
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A consistent 20+ counts of knock at WOT since the cruise.
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Smart chicks are better. Personally I like a girl to give me her thesis on how to solve the economic crisis while I put it in her ass.
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10-24-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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A consistent 20+ counts of knock at WOT since the cruise.
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Heh not exactly. It knocked like a SOB on the cruise on that piss BP91 we got in superior. I feel insanely bad if anyone else is having problems as a result of this stuff. When I was logging my hybrid MBC/BCS setup is when I really noticed things getting ugly. I had about 1/4 tank of that piss 91 in it and filled all the way up with local BP93 good stuff but it just continued to knock and the logs did show something crazy like 28 counts one time. I shut it down instantly but who knows if that was the nail in the coffin or what.
Oh, a few days later (after I had noticed it starting to run worse) just AFTER part throttle boost on decel (in gear) the car would let out a short but very noticable billow of blue/black smoke. That's when I knew for sure something was amiss.
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I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-24-2010
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flips McGee
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Shitty man, but 4b11 not quite up to dsm power yet another 200whp and i would of agreed.
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Yank the head and take a closer look, try to figure out for sure what caused this. Then save up some cash and make it happy again. I guess this will be the unofficial start of round3 for the car.
Chances are I'll get a pretty vanilla, proven setup in there for years of continued fun.
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Hmm. What symptoms prompted the compression test?
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Car just sounded like it was missing and generally running like crap, although anna said she couldn't really tell. It had almost a tick to it making me think it was something in the valvetrain; almost sounded like a 1g with bad lifter tick except there's no lifters in this engine, only tappets.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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10-24-2010
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Blaine, MN
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Re: beaterX project thread
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Yank the head and take a closer look, try to figure out for sure what caused this. Then save up some cash and make it happy again. I guess this will be the unofficial start of round3 for the car.
Chances are I'll get a pretty vanilla, proven setup in there for years of continued fun.
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Gimme a call if you want a hand or someone to sit around and talk shit.
I call built motor set for 600+ and you end up at the 500 mark.
Good luck man.
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