More Political Thought ;)

[john]

Originally posted by Eclipse99@Oct 15 2004, 10:49 AM
i know i honestly dont understand how anyone can support kerry, he doesnt have an opinion about much of anything.

www.johnkerry.com
Look for yourself.

[Eclipse99]

http://www.vega-vibe.com/movies/JKC/JKCommercial.mp3

check out this link

[SlimStyleDSM]

I don't see what the big deal about school is, I go to UST and pay through the ass! Tuition 25,000 a yr, i recieved 2,400 from the gov't, thats 22,600 out of my pocket. Big Deal! School is my choice, why should americans pay for me to go to school with their taxes...if i want to go to school, i'll pay for it. I also take at least 16 credits a semester, work a full time job and own a business...free time?!?! No such thing, i haven't gone out with my friends more than twice this year probably. I have no options though because i'm in the same position, if i don't...no school next semester. Frugal, my god...I eat Ketchup sandwichs and Ramen most meals with a glass of water - thats under a dollar right there, sucks - you're damn right, but once again its how life works at the moment and Big Deal. Instead of bitching about the cost of stuff and wanting other people to take the burden, man up and learn some financial intelligence. If someones education is that hard on them, quit, otherwise do what you have to do and shut up about it. It's your choice you're there. I'm almost glad i don't recieve gov't aid, because when i graduate i do not want to pay for all americans to go to school either. :naughty:

[JDM]

I think the reason I got so much aid is because I had a brother and sister still dependent upon my parents, which comes into play, and that I'm a minority.

[JDM]

Originally posted by Eclipse99@Oct 15 2004, 09:59 AM
http://www.vega-vibe.com/movies/JKC/JKCommercial.mp3

check out this link

That's pretty funny.

[A//// Guy]

I agree with slimstyle.

Its your choice to go to school. And how does normandale cost 9000+ a year? I pay about 1500-2000 per semester so thats about 4000 per year.

You have alot of money invested in DSM's right? How can you complain then if all you money is going into cars?

Kerry has "opinions" to me they are just magical plans of total unreality. To me he thinks money comes from the sky and it will fix all the problems we have.

[john]

Originally posted by SlimStyleDSM@Oct 15 2004, 11:32 AM
I don't see what the big deal about school is, I go to UST and pay through the ass! Tuition 25,000 a yr, i recieved 2,400 from the gov't, thats 22,600 out of my pocket. Big Deal! School is my choice, why should americans pay for me to go to school with their taxes...if i want to go to school, i'll pay for it. I also take at least 16 credits a semester, work a full time job and own a business...free time?!?! No such thing, i haven't gone out with my friends more than twice this year probably. I have no options though because i'm in the same position, if i don't...no school next semester. Frugal, my god...I eat Ketchup sandwichs and Ramen most meals with a glass of water - thats under a dollar right there, sucks - you're damn right, but once again its how life works at the moment and Big Deal. Instead of bitching about the cost of stuff and wanting other people to take the burden, man up and learn some financial intelligence. If someones education is that hard on them, quit, otherwise do what you have to do and shut up about it. It's your choice you're there. I'm almost glad i don't recieve gov't aid, because when i graduate i do not want to pay for all americans to go to school either. :naughty:

I am not complaining, I am just saying that it has not gotten better like all the republicans would like everyone to believe.
As far as needing to gain financial responsibility, call me up if you want to talk about it. I have kept a budget since I was in 11th grade. My cell is 952-412-6084. I am going into accounting. I do not know how to handle money though...

[john]

Its your choice to go to school.  And how does normandale cost 9000+ a year?  I pay about 1500-2000 per semester so thats about 4000 per year.

The loans grants have nothing to do with what school you are attending. The report stated that my family can afford to support me with $9000/ year which is complete bull shit. As far as tuition, I payed ~$2600 this semester as I had to spend over $500 in books (~5000/ year). I cannot wait until I try and transfer to the U of M next year and have to pay that shit out of pocket.

You have alot of money invested in DSM's right? How can you complain then if all you money is going into cars?

I cannot afford to put any money into my cars. That is why only my 79 cadillac is insured. I cannot afford fucking insurance on my DSM. I want to get out of them ASAP. None of mine run, they are all undriveable. Two are just shells now (one had the fucken window smashed the other day :rant: . The car will now see rain and snow). My 92 needs the engine pulled and rebuilt. I cannot even afford to pay enes to tow it home.
Once again I am not complaining. I am going to get out of DSMs to help pay for college. I am still debating on fixing the talon to sell or parting it out.

[SlimStyleDSM]

Haha, rock on 92tsi...I'm also double majoring in accounting and finance and also just entered the MBA program. Business rules, i like to hear that! I'm also glad to see younger people owning up to it. I also have paid for everything except a house over my head since 9th grade. The only thing is though, at school they teach you how to be an employee not how to be financially intelligent. Financial wealth is not taught in schools, there isn't a single class on it. See the problem in america is not that people do not make enough money, it's that they spent it all a few years ago...

[slowbubblecar]

My mom, making a 40,000/yr income is supposed to pay for my brother and I going to college while others that have plenty of money get the aid. I know of a kid at work who gets government aid for the U of M even though his dad makes over 100,000/yr. He has since dropped out after 1 year of school. The point is that the government isn't using the financial aid or loans effectively. I don't get anything, not even a loan.

[Jakey]

I would love to see someone clearly explain how one President can completely overall the secondary education financial system. Sure FAFSA is a joke, but IMHO, the main reason why the financial aid system is so f*cked up is due to one reason: emphasis on minority enrollment. Now hear me out before you get pissed reading this. My justification behind saying that is because I have experienced first hand how over and over again, the colleges, universities, and junior colleges are placing a priority on recruiting minority students. Do I see anything wrong with this? Absolutely not if it is done fairly but I believe the system right now is not fair. Right now too many students are earning full rides to his/her given educational institution simply because of a minority status and not because of academics. My roommate my freshman year here at ISU was a gentleman from central Illinois who's parents grew up in Sri Lanka. He was born in the United States (ironically in Ames), had always lived in the United States, but was on a full ride because of his ethnic background. He was not a National Merit Scholar nor did he have any form of award on his resume justifying his tuition grant. He is currently on a full ride simply because of his status as a minority student. Now if you want to complain about the financial aid system, I believe the minority student requirements for schools needs to be drastically rethought because there are way too many students out there who are on full rides because of their ethnic background, and not because of academics.

[Jakey]

Oh yeah, and those of you complaining about not being able to pay for school, I'm right there with you. I have taken out loans in my name to cover damn near every dime of my education except for 75% of my freshman year ( I will be starting my 5th semester of classes when I go back second semester). Both of my parents work full time but can not afford to fork over thousands to my education mainly due to the heart problems my dad has been fighting since '94 and will fight for the rest of his life. I take that all with a grain of salt when I can stand back and look at the fact that I am fortunate enough to be pursuing a secondary education. How would you like to have been in Iraq or Afganistan when the Commy bastards were ruling those countries. Good luck being able to sit on a message board like this and bitch about how you think you're getting screwed over in the financial aid system. Now young people our age are able to have freedom and enjoy things that they could have never thought of experiencing before.

[Eclipse99]

Originally posted by tpunx99GSX+Oct 14 2004, 06:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tpunx99GSX @ Oct 14 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

I don't remember any felonies either... I just remember the stealing of our newest nuclear weapons technology and selling it to the Chineese.

That was clinton? nope, dont think so, try again. [/b][/quote]
how about purjuery. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" Bill Clinton in front of the surpreme court of the United States of America. Wait wouldn't head be considered sexual relations. Felony.
OWNED!!
Take it bitch

[MustGoFaster]

Well I was planning on voting for Kerry, but after seeing the debates and the websites, I see that they basically want the same thing. I will provide direct quotes from each web site to illustrate a small portion of this point, or prove that it’s not just something I made up.

Subject: Education
Kerry:
"every child should be held to high standards, and every school should have the resources and the responsibility to meet those standards."

Bush:
"Under the No Child Left Behind Act, every student in this country will be held to high standards, and every school will be held accountable for results."

Sounds the same to me. They just have different plans on how to do it. Yes I realize this doesn't apply to college situations.

Well I thought I was going to go somewhere with this but I need to do more reading before I post anything more or decide who I am going to vote for.

Also, if you respond to this chances are I won't respond to you, I will make up my own mind baised on thier web sites and any other info I find credible.

[Jakey]

Originally posted by Eclipse99@Oct 18 2004, 01:01 PM
OWNED!!
Take it bitch

Seriously dude, phrases like that is why threads similar to this end up getting locked on small boards like this and are flat out not allowed anymore on larger board.