looking at Evo's. Few Questions.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by timschot

No @ SRT8. I've driven a heads/cam/built trans/rear end SRT8 jeep and while it was quick for a heavy suv.. it was still not that fast and the handling doesn't even come close to the evo. I am also not a big suv fan anyway though.

Even on e85, I've been over 21mpg on all my fillups so far. People saying 15-17 on pump gas are on the stock tune (very rich) and flooring it everywhere...

Pretty much spot on here. Apples and Oranges.

But as far as new cars go, there isn't a car on the market for under 100k that handles as well as an Evo.

[scheides]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

But as far as new cars go, there isn't a car on the market for under 100k that handles as well as an Evo.

Except a used porsche? Or viper? or a GTR?

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by scheides

Except a used porsche? Or viper? or a GTR?

All faster, none handle as well. Also talking about new (or new at the time) and under 100k

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

All faster, none handle as well. Also talking about new (or new at the time) and under 100k

Are you serious?

[311evo]

Some of my favorite selections from my time reading sport's posts. Enjoy. rofl

Originally Posted by Sport The War

So what you're saying is you would be like most EVO owners? Talking about how fast the broken garage ornament is?

Originally Posted by Sport The War

hold the phone.. there are level headed evo owners? I thought you had to have a nasty case of small man syndrome to own one or lack of driving skills. :rofl:

Originally Posted by Sport The War

BTW I was kidding, every damn time im on the mitsustyle it's JDM ALTEZZA etc. I was giving him shit, I was originally giving you shit before he wanted a piece of the action, get in line. nutswingers are funny though, I'll put money on him owning a subaru.. the asshat'ery is obivous.

Originally Posted by Sport The War

did this guy piss you off?

lancer evolution

A car for men who are not man enough to handle a real muscle car, such as the Dodge Charger. Most often, this car is for men who might be married, but they still spend 5-10% of their days questioning whether they should become a homosexual.

Men who buy these cars are often thought of as "gay" or "stupid" by men who buy American muscle cars.
Timothy wanted to buy an American muscle car until he was turned off by his sales experience with the store that sells them, simply because he is a dumb ass and will believe all the bullshit the salesmen at the Mitsubishi dealership. This is why he bought the Lancer Evolution.

Tim: Do you like my Lancer Evo dude?
Steve: No. It's a girl's car.
Tim: What?
Steve: You should have bought a Dodge Charger.
Tim: But this comes with a standard transmission and it's All Wheel Drive. I can't get a standard transmission on a Dodge Charger.
Steve: Yes, it does have those accessories, but it also is a vehicle for homosexuals. Do you enjoy penis on a regular occasion, or do you deny your preference for penis and believe the bullshit your therapist tells you?

Originally Posted by Sport The War

DB is still around? LOL

[CornFed2.4]

Holy shit the post above is amazing!!!

LMFAO. Of course an evo owner would say a GTR is not as good in the corners. Yeah there twice as much, but hands down stock for stock the GTR stomps an evo!

OP just get an Jeep SRT8, dont want ya to get all homosexual on us.

[sport the war]

Originally Posted by 311evo

Some of my favorite selections from my time reading sport's posts. Enjoy. rofl

You have to admit, goodhart was mad. You guys are too easy to get worked up. LOL

[Halon]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

All faster, none handle as well. Also talking about new (or new at the time) and under 100k

Can we chill with the constant sales pitching?

If you're going to pass that on as fact, can you site some references? Here's a reference I was looking at, Evo's not even on the list.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

[EclipseGST]

Originally Posted by Halon

Can we chill with the constant sales pitching?

If you're going to pass that on as fact, can you site some references? Here's a reference I was looking at, Evo's not even on the list.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

Exactly my thought! I seriously thought it was a joke at first. lol

[sport the war]

I'm getting conflicting info on the fuel systems, are they capable of supporting the max the stock turbo can handle? With the X, how strong are the internals? They use a semi closed deck with sleeves unlike the caliber block isn't it? How strong are the sleeves? Internals stout or suspect?

[goodhart]

Oh the retardation in this thread makes me LOL.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by Halon

Can we chill with the constant sales pitching?

If you're going to pass that on as fact, can you site some references? Here's a reference I was looking at, Evo's not even on the list.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

Eh my bad, I went back to find the article. It shows comparisons between Evo X, GTR, Z06 and a couple others for Gforce and slalom times. Turns out they were talking about the FQ400, which is the Euro version with a beefed up suspension.

[sport the war]

Originally Posted by goodhart

Oh the retardation in this thread makes me LOL.

Do you ever have something constructive to say? I swear to god you do nothing but whine...

[Kracka]

Originally Posted by sport the war

I'm getting conflicting info on the fuel systems, are they capable of supporting the max the stock turbo can handle? With the X, how strong are the internals? They use a semi closed deck with sleeves unlike the caliber block isn't it? How strong are the sleeves? Internals stout or suspect?

The stock fuel system is capable of supporting basic bolt-ons (intake, exhaust, intercooler, etc.) with pump gas, once you get into the more specialized bolt-ons such as ported manifolds, throttle body, etc. you'll need to upgrade the fuel pump. The stock injectors are fine for any stock turbo/pump gas setup though. 343whp on a Mustang dyno was the limit of my stock fuel pump; after that I had to upgrade to a Walbro 255HP. I didn't touch my injectors until I upgraded the turbo.

The internals are fine, the weak point seems to be the rods just like the 4G63. 400-450whp (Mustang) is generally regarded as "safe" on the stock block with proper tuning. A bad tuner can blow up an engine at any power level though. A local here has hit a max of 466whp and his stock block is still holding together (~55k miles on it so far), he's actually going in for an E85 retune this week and I expect him to hit 480+.

[goodhart]

Originally Posted by sport the war

Do you ever have something constructive to say? I swear to god you do nothing but whine...

What are you talking about? Because I find it funny that the #1 shit talker of Evo's now wants one? And the guy that pushes brand new Evo's on everyone and their grandmother thinks they are the greatest cars on the globe? Whatever dude...

Anyways,

Motors= weak if you go with more than a stock turbo/e85 setup.
Drivetrain = built like a tank, if you have an 08, get the diff pin installed.
Fuel system= Get a Walbro and be done. If you go with a big stock frame turbo like a Black/EF4/BBX/etc, you may need more.

[Murlo26]

The stock motor isn't really "weak".

It's perspective I guess, you just need to manage torque. 400-500whp isn't an issue if your turbo is laggy enough.

And proper tuning is very very important.

Oh, and lol at this

[A//// Guy]

LOLOL wow. Mind blown @ trogdor, the newbness is so great! And the evo bashing now turned nutswing is epic!

[cudvig]

Why wasn't the miata on that top handling car for under 100k? What a joke. I do know nothing of the bigger NC and thats probably what they are comparing...

-Colin

[timschot]

If you are staying stock turbo and run out of fuel, it's easy to address anyway. It takes 30 minutes to swap and hardwire a better fuel pump and injectors are right in the front of the engine bay if you're going e85.

[JET]

Wow, what a great thread! Lots of good stuff in here, thanks for the smiles on a hump day morning An Evo being better handling than an Elise or Cayman/Boxster... Can't make that up!