07-01-2008
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wants to be sideways...
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
If setup right with some thought put into it, you could in theory put one of those setups into a DSM, hooked right up to the tranny. You could offset about 2 or 3 of those wheels on a shaft, hooked into a clutch and tranny setup. It would look like a rotary engine almost from the outside. The gas pedal would be hooked up to a speed controller, some how.
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Leave the straight line highway dick wagging to the ricers and people who think they are good drivers.
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I'll second that. Its your car your choice. Enjoy your dsm experience.
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07-01-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
actually, doing this in a DSM would kinda be pointless, they dont look THAT good. Also, the AWD transmission/drivetrain is heavy and pointless.
From what I understand, you can delete the transmission and attach 1 electric motor to each wheel via axle or direct link, have a generator (rotating magnet motor attached to a large alternator.
Voltzilla is the megasquirt of electric cars, you would need to use one of those to drive the electric motor(s)
I personally would wait until this technology is more refined, the real high-output generators have only been around for a couple months, let gas go up to $5/gal plus higher heating bills in the winter, and i think we are going to have lots of do-it-yourselfers building these over the next couple years.
+1 to saving the earth, and my wallet
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07-01-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Oh, and Superbleeder, where is my trophy?
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07-02-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Buy your rare earth metals while you can!
Supplies of Rare Earth Elements Exhausted By 2017
"While we bemoan the current oil crisis, I ran across an editorial that led me to research a more immediate threat. Ramped-up production of flat-panel displays means the material to make them will be 'extinct' by 2017. This goes for other electronics as well. Quoting: 'The element gallium is in very short supply and the world may well run out of it in just a few years. Indium is threatened too, says Armin Reller, a materials chemist at Germany's University of Augsburg. He estimates that our planet's stock of indium will last no more than another decade. All the hafnium will be gone by 2017 also, and another twenty years will see the extinction of zinc. Even copper is an endangered item, since worldwide demand for it is likely to exceed available supplies by the end of the present century.' More links at the journal entry."
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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07-02-2008
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Banned
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Where do magnets come from? What powers the factories that shape said magnets? The earth, and coal or nuclear power, respectively.
You aren't taking things like that into account when you say it is "free energy" or what have you. Does it create enough torque to power a 3000lb car?
How much does the motor itself weigh? I know that magnets are metal, generally, and they are heavy bitches. Ever seen a 25hp electric motor? you need a forklift to pick it up. In a power-to-weight comparison, an internal combustion engine has so far always trumped electric power.
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07-02-2008
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Lots of crazy non-sense "free/cheap energy" theories on this board lately. Maybe I'll build one of these after I'm done designing my hydrogen-powered shaver.
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07-02-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Tin supplies will also be diminishing quickly with all the tin foil hats we'll be making for these people.
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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07-02-2008
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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Tin supplies will also be diminishing quickly with all the tin foil hats we'll be making for these people.
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...respond to this with insults, swearing and generally becoming upset.
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Where do magnets come from? What powers the factories that shape said magnets? The earth, and coal or nuclear power, respectively.
You aren't taking things like that into account when you say it is "free energy" or what have you. Does it create enough torque to power a 3000lb car?
How much does the motor itself weigh? I know that magnets are metal, generally, and they are heavy bitches. Ever seen a 25hp electric motor? you need a forklift to pick it up. In a power-to-weight comparison, an internal combustion engine has so far always trumped electric power.
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First off, over unity is over unity, thats what makes it amazing. here is a high HP car with electric motors http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/honda_dualnote.html
Second, yes electric motors are heavy, but so are transmissions and battery packs
if I could have a car with a non-nuclear power source that would outlive me, that would cut down on my transportation expenses quite a bit.
If you have some personal vendetta against cutting edge/experimental technology, please dont post in this thread.
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07-02-2008
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Shit Rocket Pilot
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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If you have some personal vendetta against cutting edge/experimental technology, please dont post in this thread.
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There's nothing wrong with cutting edge technology, but there is something wrong with people posting up every single thing found on the internet as the cure for what ails this world.
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Every minute you spend in your Evo, not in boost, is a minute of your life you'll never get back.
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07-02-2008
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formerly ecoli
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Bypass the electic meter outside your house for free electricity.
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07-02-2008
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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Lots of crazy non-sense "free/cheap energy" theories on this board lately. Maybe I'll build one of these after I'm done designing my hydrogen-powered shaver.
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It's hydrogen powered doctors, not shavers. Sadam tryed to purchase 7million hydrogen powered doctors and the western wall of the pentegon, don't you read the news?
"Trusting in the sanity and restraint of the united states is not a strategy, and it is not an option"
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/52/
Watch this and you will know what I am talking about.
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07-18-2008
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
At the meet we have on thursday nights here in Cali, There was a 3g that made his own kit that looks exactly like the cheap ebay ones.
He said he was going to dyno his car with and without it because he thinks he felt a difference. He also had a active grounding fresh off of ebay, it even came with a little box that had a cool LED on it to show that it was working. LOL
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07-18-2008
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Semper Fidelis
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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At the meet we have on thursday nights here in Cali, There was a 3g that made his own kit that looks exactly like the cheap ebay ones.
He said he was going to dyno his car with and without it because he thinks he felt a difference. He also had a active grounding fresh off of ebay, it even came with a little box that had a cool LED on it to show that it was working. LOL
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Don't be mad because his car is running and yours is not. LoL He also had neons inside the car.. 
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07-18-2008
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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Don't be mad because his car is running and yours is not. LoL He also had neons inside the car.. 
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Do you have a thing with Smilies doing it in the butt?
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07-18-2008
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Semper Fidelis
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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Do you have a thing with Smilies doing it in the butt?
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Yeah it's my fetish 
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07-21-2008
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Semper Fidelis
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
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At the meet we have on thursday nights here in Cali, There was a 3g that made his own kit that looks exactly like the cheap ebay ones.
He said he was going to dyno his car with and without it because he thinks he felt a difference. He also had a active grounding fresh off of ebay, it even came with a little box that had a cool LED on it to show that it was working. LOL
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I found a pic of his set up.

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07-21-2008
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Is funding Exxon.
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Re: Absolute Power! Free Electricity
Wow, ground wire Nazi! I am sure that added a bunch of power and upped his MPG too.
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