E85? - Page 2

1G_DSM · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by scheides

Dude, you need to calm down and do a little more asking around. Yes TalonFiero is a member here, people have said it before and I'll say it again. Search search search! Better yet, come hang out with us, we'll show you who to talk to and help you find the answers you're looking for.

I am clam people are just taking this the wrong way because I'm new here. Yes, I looked through the threads before I signed up here. Tell me my statements are false. All I did was ask a simple question but because I'm new people automatically assumed stuff like I didn't read through the previous threads, ect., for some reason. I'm trying to find guys that have this setup not people who are trying to do it. The threads who did have people doing the switch over, don't have any follow up to it. Like how it ran, how much boost, ect. Like I said read my statements and tell me my statements are false before you automatically judge me because I'm new.

TalonFiero · 05-22-2007

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Originally Posted by scheides

TalonFiero runs it in both his 2G Talon & his Evo.

Basically get a big fuel pump and some big injectors, fill'er up and tune it out!

His talon is running a single Walbro255 I think, w/ 1600cc injectors
His Evo has like 4 mods: MBC, TBE, 1000cc injectors, and 255 pump. That thing put down like 330whp on DB's dyno.

There's also lots of evo guys running it on some local forums.

^^What he said ^^

I run about a 60/40 mix of e85/92 in the talon at 27psi as I have 1600cc injectors and a TT supra fuel pump, I am afraid to run straight e85 on the Talon until I have it on the dyno as I expect to max my fuel system.

Evo has basic but important mods, haven't finished tuning on e85 as of yet. 328hp and 337tq from a car that would have put down a baseline of about 225hp/225tq on 92 stock.

I am awaiting some of Shane's sekret trikz to see what e85 can really do on my evo.

Oh I also average right around 20-21mpg or more on e85 in the evo, I used to get around 25mpg on 92.

carltalon · 05-21-2007

I'm running it and damn do I love it so far. I'll post up my results in my project thred tonight or tomarrow after some tuning.

1G_DSM · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by carltalon

I'm running it and damn do I love it so far. I'll post up my results in my project thred tonight or tomarrow after some tuning.

Finally what I've been looking for, a guy from MN that has done it and is running it. Although I know you had your own thread about the process of doing it, it wasn't complete though and had no follow up so I look forward to your thoughts about e85.

carltalon · 05-21-2007

This summer will answer alot of questions about E-85 there are a few of us going with it and wev'e all taken slightly different routs. Halon ,Jet And I are all working on our E-85 setups.

Im running dual intank walbro 255's 850cc injectors and a basefuel pressure of 50psi From what Ive done so far I think I'll be able to run 25 PSI boost before Im out of injector. At 11-1 air fuel ratio I'm seeing close to 45 pounds per min at near 95% duty cycle. I think when I get it leaned out to 12-1 I should be able to get close to 50 pounds per min. I'll probly be getting a set of 1600cc injectors when I have the money.

95talonracer · 05-21-2007

I am also running E-85 and have had alot of success with it. I am running a 11.5-1 and 30psi with no knock. I have a 255 and 880s which are at a little over 90% duty. The thing really likes this fuel.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 05-21-2007

What size turbo are you running? I couldn't see running much bigger than a 16G at 30psi with only 880s on E85.

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer

I am also running E-85 and have had alot of success with it. I am running a 11.5-1 and 30psi with no knock. I have a 255 and 880s which are at a little over 90% duty. The thing really likes this fuel.

95talonracer · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by ecoli

What size turbo are you running? I couldn't see running much bigger than a 16G at 30psi with only 880s on E85.

I have a 20g td06. I turned the boost down to about 27 or so now until I log the duty cycle but otherwise the AF is 11.4 and there is no knock at all.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 05-21-2007

Any idea what it's making for HP?

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer

I have a 20g td06. I turned the boost down to about 27 or so now until I log the duty cycle but otherwise the AF is 11.4 and there is no knock at all.

95talonracer · 05-22-2007

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Originally Posted by ecoli

Any idea what it's making for HP?

Looking at dynoing it at the end of the week if anyone has an opening for Friday or Saturday. It hit 305 on Regular 92 gas at 20-21 psi so I am assuming it is up a bit from there as it feels much better. Any guesses?

1G_DSM · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer

I am also running E-85 and have had alot of success with it. I am running a 11.5-1 and 30psi with no knock. I have a 255 and 880s which are at a little over 90% duty. The thing really likes this fuel.

How's gas milage treating you? You're running it with just the one 255 pump? Most people go dual with at least a dual pump.

**Shane@DBPerformance** · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by 1G_DSM

How's gas milage treating you? You're running it with just the one 255 pump? Most people go dual with at least a dual pump.

You can run a single pump in lower HP applications with 880s or 1000cc injectors. If you are making a lot of power, you will need dual pumps and 1600cc or more.

**Kracka** · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by 1G_DSM

Most people go dual with at least a dual pump.

If you know so much about it why are you asking questions?

1G_DSM · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by S2kracka

If you know so much about it why are you asking questions?

I never ran it, like I said I want more personal information.

**Halon** · 05-21-2007

What answers do you need that aren't answered in the threads? I run it. Basically you need more fuel. What else are you looking for answers on?

**JET** · 05-21-2007

I run it too and "should" have my car up to Mark's tomorrow. I went all out with my fuel system though since I was out of fuel on race gas. I can't imagine anything you need to know that the other threads didn't cover. I am loving it so far, did a bit of tuning with it but not fully tuned yet. Maybe next weekend.

1G_DSM · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by JET

I run it too and "should" have my car up to Mark's tomorrow. I went all out with my fuel system though since I was out of fuel on race gas. I can't imagine anything you need to know that the other threads didn't cover. I am loving it so far, did a bit of tuning with it but not fully tuned yet. Maybe next weekend.

I just want to know more personal things. How easy was tuning, gas milage, did you like it, not like it. Simple stuff like that. How many miles did you put on your motor since the switch to e85?

**JET** · 05-22-2007

Hehee, that is Josh. I think it is the way you are asking the questions that is putting people off. You didn't say anything about searxhing past threads in the beginning and you are asking vague questions. Ask specific questions so we can give you a good answer.

Mine hasn't made it out of the driveway yet, but I got idle tuned nicely

I am going to do some running around tomorrow and tune some(got tabs today).

1G_DSM · 05-22-2007

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Originally Posted by JET

Hehee, that is Josh. I think it is the way you are asking the questions that is putting people off. You didn't say anything about searxhing past threads in the beginning and you are asking vague questions. Ask specific questions so we can give you a good answer.

Mine hasn't made it out of the driveway yet, but I got idle tuned nicely

I am going to do some running around tomorrow and tune some(got tabs today).

Josh said I should get it by Friday when I ordered it, it's Monday now, lol. Must be on backorder or something. You can say it's how I ask the questions but I can easily say it's how people read my questions/answers and assume things you know what I mean? Tell me how that turns out when you take it out. I came here with good intentions and looking for some local DSM buddies but it seems that blew up pretty quick, lol.

**JET** · 05-22-2007

Well, the whole board seems to have taken it the wrong way, so I don't think it is our reading skills in question

We are a pretty forgiving bunch, just cuz you got off on the wrong foot doesn't mean you will be shunned forever. Do an intro thread and let people get to know you more. Come to a few gatherings too, that is a great way to "fit in" better.