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View Poll Results: How much WHP will I make on Cobb's AWD Mustang dyno?
<450 2 11.11%
450-475 3 16.67%
475-500 6 33.33%
500-525 3 16.67%
525-550 3 16.67%
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Old 03-27-2013   #1
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^Exactly; logging/tweaking isn't tuning.
Pssh, I don't even tweak, I have Jon VPN in and control my computer for me lol.

I don't wanna f it up, even though I know the basics, not worth a motor.
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I can tune a Guitar!!!

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LOL even better. That's how remote tuning should be done. This nonsense about emailing a log and them sending back an adjusted ROM within 24 hours is total BS. Remote tuning should be scheduled with a specific time slot just like dyno tuning is. I don't get these guys who are "in progress" for 2-3 month stretches when I can drop my car off, grab lunch, then come back and have it ready to rock.
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LOL even better. That's how remote tuning should be done. This nonsense about emailing a log and them sending back an adjusted ROM within 24 hours is total BS. Remote tuning should be scheduled with a specific time slot just like dyno tuning is. I don't get these guys who are "in progress" for 2-3 month stretches when I can drop my car off, grab lunch, then come back and have it ready to rock.
The only delays with Jon are mechanical. He looks at it and basically says, you have a problem with so and so, then I take forever to fix that.

But yes, the way I am trying to do now is setup a time slot for him to work.

Dyno tuning is nice, but I am a big advocate of street tuning now and touch up on dyno, it just seems to get it dialed in better for true street driving as that is where you are driving the car.

But I digress.
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Different strokes for different folks. My car is 100% dyno-tuned and it's been awesome on the street in all weather, temperature, elevation, and climate changes.
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Different strokes for different folks. My car is 100% dyno-tuned and it's been awesome on the street in all weather, temperature, elevation, and climate changes.
Agreed sir
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Just to better demonstrate how quickly his 2.3L is able to spool the EF4, here is my car with EF2.5 over-layed vs. his with EF4:

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Just to better demonstrate how quickly his 2.3L is able to spool the EF4, here is my car with EF2.5 over-layed vs. his with EF4:

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Indeed, still making 300 lbs of TQ at 8000 RPM is legitimate.
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Indeed, still making 300 lbs of TQ at 8000 RPM is legitimate.
true that, solid setup for sure I think and safe, should last a LONG time.

I am hoping for double that at 9000 on the new setup
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I am hoping for double that at 9000 on the new setup
You're shooting for over 1,000 HP?
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true that, solid setup for sure I think and safe, should last a LONG time.

I am hoping for double that at 9000 on the new setup
4th engine here you come!!!

You are correct though, at these power levels Andrew's setup should last for a very long time!
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Hmmm, is this just a break in tune?

I'd expect over 500whp on his setup or damn near. I mean, your car (no offense) hangs with him on the graph for a little bit.

Just seems like a very conservative tune for a much bigger turbo and more displacement.

However, its a great looking graph none the less, looks very fun.
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It's not a break-in tune, but it's also not a final tune. The engine is still tight and the fuel & fuel pump were overheating due to being on the dyno all day. It goes back on April 13th for the finishing touches.

P.S. ...and my car is just that fucking awesome
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It's not a break-in tune, but it's also not a final tune as previously stated. The engine is still tight and the fuel & fuel pump were overheating due to being on the dyno all day. It goes back on April 13th for the finishing touches.

P.S. ...and my car is just that fucking awesome
Ok, well I can't wait to see it with his final tune then

Your car is a very solid pump gas car.

But, I am just surprised on his. The like week I ran pump gas on my EF4 I cracked 500whp on like 24psi. We ran into phantom knock stuff (motor noise) though. But it seemed easy to hit 500whp.

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For whatever reason, X's seem to make more power with the larger turbos on pump gas. We've seen the same thing down here locally with Blacks too.
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His previous 2.3L setup spooled the EF3 just like a stock IX turbo.
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stock mivec cams still?
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FP4Rv2 camshafts, stock unmodified gears.
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