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View Poll Results: How much WHP will I make on Cobb's AWD Mustang dyno?
<450 2 11.11%
450-475 3 16.67%
475-500 6 33.33%
500-525 3 16.67%
525-550 3 16.67%
>550 1 5.56%
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Old 03-25-2013   #1
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!

So legit! Hella pump gas setup that's for sure. I'm glad all the v7 stuff is being fully utilized, I forgot about all of those little details tephra added.

This is a solid 420 on Shane's dyno. Hella legit.
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!

Nice fat powerband. LOVE IT!

Looking forward to seeing it in action on the MSSC
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The powerband feels awesome, with the longer gearing it goes on forever!
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The powerband feels awesome, with the longer gearing it goes on forever!
Ahh that's right, he has the stock gearing with a 4.10 (4.11?) Final Drive?
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I think its the HKS 4.11 if I remember right.

Great looking setup Andrew, can't wait to see it on the cruise!
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Ahh that's right, he has the stock gearing with a 4.10 (4.11?) Final Drive?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!

Bad ass! I like the boost by gear and failsafes too, that stuff is cool.
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!

That boost curve is amazing! What do you think helped it out the most to get it to be so solid?
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Is it true boost by gear or just low gear/high gear boost like the X's have?
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That boost curve is amazing! What do you think helped it out the most to get it to be so solid?
Big turbo, good high pressure wastegate actuator, ECU control, and a Grimspeed 3-port BCS...and a competent tuner who knows how to make it all work well together.
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Is it true boost by gear or just low gear/high gear boost like the X's have?
True boost by gear, fully adjustable by RPM in all 5 forward gears.
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Thanks everyone for the support its been an epic journey!
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!

Damn!! I made that on E85 haha. Are you planning to do an E85 tune after a few more miles?
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Damn!! I made that on E85 haha. Are you planning to do an E85 tune after a few more miles?
Yea but he has an ef4 to your 2.5, bigger cams, and a stroker motor . It all adds up!
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He hasn't had the greatest luck with E85 in the past. He has mentioned trying out race gas eventually though.

Safety, reliability, and longevity is the name of the game with this build.
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I consider e85 to be plenty safe, however I guess that could be taken with a grain of salt with the luck I have.

I saw toss in some ms109 for when you wanna go fast if you want consistency.
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Safe and consistency are two very different words.

Is E85 safe? Depends.
Is E85 consistent? Definitely not.

The problem isn't the ethanol itself, it's the crap the blenders mix with it to make E85.
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Safe and consistency are two very different words.

Is E85 safe? Depends.
Is E85 consistent? Definitely not.

The problem isn't the ethanol itself, it's the crap the blenders mix with it to make E85.
Different yes, but they can be directly related for sure.

TRUE E85 is awesome, I agree its the crap that gets mixed in that is the problem. But if you buy real E85, or even C85 (c16/e85 mix) then you have some baller ass stuff.

Obviously many many people run it, especially in evos and for the amount of people that use it there are not a ton of failures, especially considering how hard people push it.

Also, I would imagine texas has a lot more consistent e85 than us MN'ers.
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Safe and consistency are two very different words.

Is E85 safe? Depends.
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The problem isn't the ethanol itself, it's the crap the blenders mix with it to make E85.
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Different yes, but they can be directly related for sure.

TRUE E85 is awesome, I agree its the crap that gets mixed in that is the problem. But if you buy real E85, or even C85 (c16/e85 mix) then you have some baller ass stuff.

Obviously many many people run it, especially in evos and for the amount of people that use it there are not a ton of failures, especially considering how hard people push it.

Also, I would imagine texas has a lot more consistent e85 than us MN'ers.
C85, E98, or E85 from VP Fuels, for example, is an entirely different animal than pumping it from the corner station. Those have controls and consistent quality, the corner station's E85 does not. I can assure you the ethanol that VP uses is of the utmost quality though, and the denaturant is exactly what you want and where you want it (natural gasoline from Conway, KS blended in at 2.2-2.4%)

E85 down here is a double-edged sword, on one hand we have more consistent ethanol blend percentage, but on the other hand the blendstock seems to be worse quality overall. It's this blendstock that causes injectors to get sludgy, and with unknown blendstock, it is very important to run a tank of quality premium gasoline through the system every few weeks.
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You could always buy a 55 gallon drum and blend your own e85
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