March for health care! - Page 16

**Kracka** · 11-14-2013

Ridiculous.

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-14-2013

Tom, that article you linked says, and I quote, "So why is this happening right now?

Some -- or maybe even most -- of the plans offered on the individual insurance market right now don't meet certain requirements in the health-care law. They may not offer preventive care without co-payment, for example, or leave out coverage of maternity care, one of the health-care law's 10 essential benefits.

"How many people are going to get cancellation notices?

It's hard to put an exact number on this, given that insurance plans are the ones who decide whether or not to continue offering an insurance product. Experts have estimated that somewhere between half and three-quarters of those who currently buy their own policies will not have the option to renew coverage, which works out to around 7 to 12 million people."

"What does this have to do with Obamacare?

Pretty much everything: Since the health-care law required insurance companies to change their plans, this is a direct result of the Affordable Care Act."

**Murlo26** · 11-14-2013

But Tom wasn't affected, so why would he care

It's funny that some people think money just comes for free (not saying tom thinks that, as I know he doesn't) and doesn't realize that everyone else just foots the bill...make us buy a bunch of bs that we didn't need and/or want.

I am confused how people are surprised that this is as bad as it is, did we think somehow we would magically all get "free" health care...

polishmafia · 11-14-2013

"If you like your plan, you can keep it."

As flawed as a plan might have been, if it worked for someone, Obama said they could keep it. But people's plans were cancelled. Cancelled because their own plan didn't meet "the requirements", like cover pregnancy - for a single male only plan. Why would a single male need pregnancy coverage? I digress...

Now Obama said that he will allow health plans to be renewed for one more year. Regardless of the circumstance. Regardless of the plan.

At least he admits he made a mistake.

I'm really wanting to hear arguments that the health care companies are to blame for the cancellation of coverage. The last thing any insurance companies want to do is change a person's plan. It costs them time, which includes the most expensive portion, FTEs. If an insurance company can roll over someone's plan with no hand on it, that is the best way for them. It doesn't cost a dime.

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-15-2013

And in a year, we'll be doing this all over again,........................

The Dems are only worried about the slaughter that could come in the 2014 mid term elections, that is the only reason for the delay, nothing more.

**Murlo26** · 11-15-2013

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

And in a year, we'll be doing this all over again,........................

The Dems are only worried about the slaughter that could come in the 2014 mid term elections, that is the only reason for the delay, nothing more.

agreed

mdost03 · 11-15-2013

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

And in a year, we'll be doing this all over again,........................

The Dems are only worried about the slaughter that could come in the 2014 mid term elections, that is the only reason for the delay, nothing more.

This x1000

**goodhart** · 11-15-2013

http://mycancellation.com/

**Halon** · 11-15-2013

I agree that at least he admits his mistake, but delaying it 1 year is a pathetic attempt at making it right. He straight up lied through his teeth falsly representing this law to the entire nation, that has to be grounds for some sort of action.

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-15-2013

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Originally Posted by Halon

I agree that at least he admits his mistake, but delaying it 1 year is a pathetic attempt at making it right. He straight up lied through his teeth falsly representing this law to the entire nation, that has to be grounds for some sort of action.

It was no mistake. He knew what he was selling. The only mistake is that he's been caught lying through his teeth.

He should be impeached. Here he is once again re-writing a law to fit his needs on the fly instead of going through congress. HE IS NOT A DICTATOR, we have due process in this country.

**Kracka** · 11-25-2013

My premium went down $4/month...thanks Obama

No idea how much extra my company is paying though.

SlowWhite · 12-03-2013

My premiums have gone up 22% a week due to obamacare. My company healthcare increased by 7% last jan. When it looked like obama care was going to be implemented and now they said come jan 1st 2014 they are going to raise it another 22% do to increase in health care costs to our company.

And on top of that for the last 4yrs straight blue cross blue shield has denied every claim that was submitted to them. I've averaged 4900 a year in out of pocket medical that the gov takes out of my tax returns each year. If it was 5000 I could claim it and get a refund. But its always just under the 5, 000 mark.
Bcbs even went as far to say that my baby girls insurance expired 2 months before she was even born. So so put aside the fact that I pay for the family plan here at work of $120 a week.
The medical should have been covered under my wife. But nope they refused to cover the birth of ny daughter.
Hell when my ex had her baby all she had to say was she was a single mom and the gov covered everything.

**1ViciousGSX** · 01-13-2014

Getting it yet?

dsmreck · 01-13-2014

old news America is now a bunch of pussies too afraid to band together or stand for a cause. Lost is the true heart spirit and devotion to what once was a great nation full of pride. Where are the parents and teachers? Just a bunch of morons floating around at this point. Healthcare, guns, ammo, gas, food, barcodes…we the robots obey..

sorry guys yes i've blown a gasket here guess it's back on the engine stand for me

polishmafia · 01-14-2014

tpunx99GSX · 01-20-2014

the company im with now. is cheaper than the last for healthcare, and our premiums have not gone up a dime in over 8 years. Pretty unheard of, but the company just takes any hike and doesnt pass it on to the employees. Pretty awesome company.

dsmreck · 01-28-2014

polishmafia well spoken sir. no touching of the hair or face. rights and freedoms are fair game

**1ViciousGSX** · 12-02-2014

Told ya so!!

http://dailysignal.com/2014/12/02/am..._medium=social

**asshanson** · 12-02-2014

That's a little misleading. It doesn't take into account how many people are spending money on health insurance that didn't spend any before. For instance, I can't look at that graph and say WOW internet connection prices have gone up 81%! Most of that is more people buying internet service.

Not defending obamacare at all, I just don't like how that analysis was done.

polishmafia · 12-03-2014

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Originally Posted by asshanson

That's a little misleading. It doesn't take into account how many people are spending money on health insurance that didn't spend any before. For instance, I can't look at that graph and say WOW internet connection prices have gone up 81%! Most of that is more people buying internet service.

Not defending obamacare at all, I just don't like how that analysis was done.

I have to agree with Andrew. That article shows that people are spending less on home phones, but a huge increase in cell phones. Well, duh, thats cause everyone is moving away from having a land line.

I work for a healthcare company, and I can say that the cost of healthcare has been going up extremely fast over the years, even before the ACA was even put into place.