View Poll Results: How much WHP will I make on Cobb's AWD Mustang dyno?
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450-475
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33.33% |
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16.67% |
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16.67% |
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02-18-2013
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R U DTF bro?
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oak Point, TX
Drives: C8 Stingray Z51
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
If it were me, I would never reuse anything, but not my car, money, nor choice  I am going to petition for everything (complete clutch kit & flywheel friction ring) to be replaced this time around to avoid any unnecessary failures.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-03-2013
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
Drives: G37, 91 TSi
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Any update?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-04-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
More clutch problems...got the tranny back on Saturday only to have to take it off again on Sunday. We're fukkin pros at unclipping the TOB now.
Dyno tune with COBB is scheduled for Saturday 3/23 at 9am so we have about 2 1/2 weeks to get it running and finish break-in.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-04-2013
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
Posts: 1,375
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Kracka
More clutch problems...got the tranny back on Saturday only to have to take it off again on Sunday. We're fukkin pros at unclipping the TOB now.
Dyno tune with COBB is scheduled for Saturday 3/23 at 9am so we have about 2 1/2 weeks to get it running and finish break-in.
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Hey, at least you have nice weather for your tranny activities.
I was all amped to work on my car on Sunday... went out to the garage in 30 degree weather, NOPE, and went back inside.
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03-04-2013
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Hey, at least you have nice weather for your tranny activities.
I was all amped to work on my car on Sunday... went out to the garage in 30 degree weather, NOPE, and went back inside.
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LOL this has been me a couple times this winter.
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-04-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Hey, at least you have nice weather for your tranny activities.
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Mid-80's today!!!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-04-2013
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Prior Lake
Drives: Icarus
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Mid-80's today!!!
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#$*&@#^&@#$%! STOP IT!
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"The moment money becomes your motivation, you're immediately not as good as someone who is stimulated by passion and internal will"
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03-04-2013
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flips McGee
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by Tachyon
Hey, at least you have nice weather for your tranny activities
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QFT!
Man, if this wasn't a car forum....
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32634
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I need to listen to Scheides more often i think :)
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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g
...I realized that I can't keep up my shit talking without anything to back it up.
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Originally Posted by JV
S2000: For those of us that know the Miata is the best car on the planet, but also want extra power and to not have to turn in our man cards.
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03-04-2013
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Oh man. Still running a FX400 or whatever it was?
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-04-2013
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#10
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R U DTF bro?
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Location: Oak Point, TX
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
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Originally Posted by goodhart
Oh man. Still running a FX400 or whatever it was?
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Yup, it's not the clutch itself though. As far as I can tell, the CM discs are high quality and their PP's are just modified stock Exedy.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-05-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
New clutch setup on the way: CCI Stage 3.5 segmented ceramic clutch and CCI 10.8lb flywheel.
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-05-2013
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Transmission destroyer
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Location: Cambridge
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
3.5? So is that like a stg 3 disk and a stg 4 pressure plate?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-05-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Stage 3 is what I had in my IX which is segmented Kevlar, this is a step up in power holding with segmented ceramic, but will be more streetable than the Stage 4 ceramic 6-puck. All CCI clutch kits for the 8/9/X now include their 3000lb HD pressure plate.
Long story short, the CM FX300 disc he bought isn't compatible with the PP from his CM FX400 kit, and his FX400 disc is defective with a loose hub. Going the CCI route was the quickest thing possible since MAP had it all in stock while Andrew waits for CM to inspect and replace his FX400 disc, which will then be sold with the matching PP and TOB. So, if anyway wants a brand new CM FX400 disc with barely used PP and new TOB... 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Last edited by Kracka; 03-05-2013 at 12:35 PM..
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03-05-2013
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Transmission destroyer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cambridge
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Gotcha. Sounds like a nice combo!
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Originally Posted by scheides
I swing from the nuts of cold hard data. Anything less is a guess.
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03-05-2013
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
Posts: 1,152
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Thats the clutch I just got in my car, love it so far.
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2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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03-14-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
New flywheel and clutch are mounted...

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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-14-2013
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Who has my man-card?
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Crystal MN
Drives: a red car
Posts: 2,162
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Yay!
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03-24-2013
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#18
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Woohoo! Running and dyno-tuned, very productive weekend! A few minor issues this weekend but nothing serious (o2 sensor, dipstick, and LICP coupler). The tune is done though and she runs/drives/idles incredibly smooth. Calvin @ Cobb does want to do a check-up on the tune and an alignment before the cruise, after the engine gets a few more miles on it (only 115 miles when we dropped it off yesterday).
I'll let Andrew post his results and chart 
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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03-24-2013
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mankato
Drives: 2004 Evo 8
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
Yes!! I want to see results i'm going to go search evom haha
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2004 AS Evo VIII - MAP 2.3/FP Green E85 480/450 @30psi #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - Stock Motor/Turbo/E85 388/404 #RonnieTuned
2006 WW IX RS - 20K Miles - SOLD
2006 WW IX RS 396/404 - SOLD
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03-25-2013
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R U DTF bro?
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Re: SE take two! Err, make that three!
With Andrew's permission, here you go!

link to larger version: http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMAG0297.jpg
453whp/390wtq @ 27.7 psig
Keep in mind that this engine is still tight with only 115 miles on it when it was dropped off for tuning. We were battling boost leak and couplers popping off all day with a poor fitting LICP and by the end of the day the fuel pump and fuel were beginning to over-heat so we called it a day. Once the engine gets a few more miles on it to loosen up and a properly fitting LICP is installed it will be back on the dyno for a few final runs and adjustments (April 13th, the weekend before the cruise). I expect the end results to sit somewhere closer to the 470whp range once it's able to take a touch more boost and timing, and probably rev out a bit further. It is tuned on Tephra V7 with multiple fail-safes and 91-octane map-switching setup, along with gear based direct boost control. The EF4 has MAP's "25 psig" HP WGA, but I have it just barely pre-tensioned so WGA pressure sits around 17-19 psig, with his 91-octane "safe" map sitting in the low-20's. If a high knock count is ever observed boost will immediately drop to spring pressure. I do love that rock solid boost curve!
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Originally Posted by Murlo26
I agree with Kracka.
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Last edited by Kracka; 03-25-2013 at 08:15 AM..
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