March for health care! - Page 14

Matt D. · 08-04-2010

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Originally Posted by 1ViciousGSX

Don't forget this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...enge-continue/

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"This lawsuit is not about health care, it's about our freedom and about standing up and calling on the federal government to follow the ultimate law of the land -- the Constitution," said Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who brought the suit. "The government cannot draft an unwilling citizen into commerce just so it can regulate him under the Commerce Clause."

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-15-2010

Any surprises here? I guess no, not really.

111 waivers to big companies for Obamacare.

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations...or_waiver.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/lots...acare-waivers/

Matt D. · 12-13-2010

Finally, showing some promise.

Judge Calls Health Law Unconstitutional
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...229615230.html

polishmafia · 12-13-2010

Good to hear it. Although the thing that pisses me off is that so many companies (like the one I work at) have already put so much time, effort, and money into getting ready for the changes, that if they reverse this bill... All of that is wasted. Completely wasted.

But I guess Tom will come in here and say it was Obama's plan to create or KEEP jobs. :P

**Goat Blower** · 12-13-2010

The dems planned this all along. Hire a bunch of people to ramp up healthcare, than hire a bunch more to tear it down. Kinda like hiring one crew to dig a hole and another to fill it back in. It's the 2011 dem job bonanza!

tpunx99GSX · 12-15-2010

Honestly, they should have put in a clause that says, if you dont want the healthcare, then you can opt out. But they only open enrollment every 5 years. And if you dont have insurance or the money to pay for the work being done UP FRONT, you simply dont get the care needed. PERIOD.
Which it then would be very funny when all of these republicans opt out, And then complain about how they cant get a doctor when they get sick because they dont have health insurance. I will laugh.
The people wanted a universal healthcare system, but then bitch when they are told they will have to pay for it. I welcome the universal healthcare for the simple reason that if another recession happens and im out of a job for 2 years or so, i would like to know that if i get a horrible disease, i dont want to go bankrupt trying to pay for it. But like ive said before, with the greedy, self centered people in this country, it will never happen the way it should. Everyone thinking for themself instead of others. im out of this thread and could really give two fucks what any of you really think when it comes to politics. You have all proven this many times that you done give a flying fuck about this countries people as a whole.

1QUICK4 · 12-15-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

I welcome the universal healthcare for the simple reason that if another recession happens and im out of a job for 2 years or so, i would like to know that if i get a horrible disease, i dont want to go bankrupt trying to pay for it.

So under this new plan you are gauranteed goverment funded healthcare if you lose your job?

**Murlo26** · 12-15-2010

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX

Honestly, they should have put in a clause that says, if you dont want the healthcare, then you can opt out. But they only open enrollment every 5 years. And if you dont have insurance or the money to pay for the work being done UP FRONT, you simply dont get the care needed. PERIOD.
Which it then would be very funny when all of these republicans opt out, And then complain about how they cant get a doctor when they get sick because they dont have health insurance. I will laugh.
The people wanted a universal healthcare system, but then bitch when they are told they will have to pay for it. I welcome the universal healthcare for the simple reason that if another recession happens and im out of a job for 2 years or so, i would like to know that if i get a horrible disease, i dont want to go bankrupt trying to pay for it. But like ive said before, with the greedy, self centered people in this country, it will never happen the way it should. Everyone thinking for themself instead of others. im out of this thread and could really give two fucks what any of you really think when it comes to politics. You have all proven this many times that you done give a flying fuck about this countries people as a whole.

You are missing the point...we just hate lazy fucks

Matt D. · 12-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Murlo26

You are missing the point...we just hate lazy fucks

This.

The United States of America is the land of opportunity. It is NOT the land of hand outs and receiving that which you do not deserve.

**1ViciousGSX** · 12-15-2010

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Originally Posted by Matt D.

This.

The United States of America is the land of opportunity. It is NOT the land of hand outs and receiving that which you do not deserve.

+ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

**1ViciousGSX** · 11-04-2013

I think now is a good time to resurect this thread.

Discuss,..................

**Murlo26** · 11-04-2013

Yay for everyones rates increasing dramatically?

I know my company said they had a rate increase of 50% and that was the lowest quote they could find. My gf now has to pay A LOT more at her job as well for it and she makes less than 30k a year.

I fail to see how this is a good thing? Seems basically like a giant tax increase for all those with jobs to pay for those who have none...basically everything we didn't want.

mdost03 · 11-04-2013

Supreme Court said it was a tax after we were all told it wouldn't be.

Also, I hear a lot of Minnesota people are getting their insurance plans cancelled because they don't meet "guidelines" anymore? This is after Obama stated that "if you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it PERIOD".

Great stuff, love it...

**Murlo26** · 11-04-2013

I don't think there is any other way to say it except this..."He lied through his teeth"

**Kracka** · 11-04-2013

Can't afford health insurance? Perfect, pay this fine. It really is quite ridiculous; making the poor poorer. The ones who really are hurt by this are the people who are actually trying to make a living and support a family.

1QUICK4 · 11-04-2013

Our insurance (family plan) through my wife's work went from $630 a month to $1150. My fathers plan has been canceled due to not meeting guidelines.

We are now on my union's health plan because the union gets 1 more year before price gouging kicks in (most likely due to the unions being a bunch of (D) boot lickers)

Affordable my ass!

**Kracka** · 11-04-2013

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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4

We are now on my union's health plan because the union gets 1 more year before price gouging kicks in (most likely due to the unions being a bunch of (D) boot lickers)

Same with the cops in my city...1 more year, then, for example, this one officer is facing a 500% premium increase! How exactly is 5x the price "affordable" for anyone?

**goodhart** · 11-04-2013

^Same here. Thank god AFSCME ratified a 2 year contract right before this shit kicked in. We aren't effected yet.

**goodhart** · 11-04-2013

In for what Tom has to say about this.

1QUICK4 · 11-04-2013

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Originally Posted by goodhart

In for what Tom has to say about this.

I'd bet he has nothing to say since it turned out to not be magical free/cheap health care.
He might pop in to say it was all Romney's plan/fault though